600 more active users in the last few days, from 47225 to 47827 in two days
Source: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats
Context: Reddit made a few controversial annoucements, feel free to have a look at !reddit@lemmy.world
For people wanting to discuss why some people focus on Lemmy's growth, here is a recent thread from !asklemmy@lemmy.world :
IMO fediverse is big enough now to serve as reddit replacement.
It's not the size, it's the content. Lemmyverse is a lot more serious and honestly, gloomy. Average age seems to be quite higher too. If all you used reddit for was news, politics, technical discussion and porn lemmy might be perfectly fine but there's way less meme or entertainment content here
There is less of everything. Less sports, less hobbies, less local groups, less crafts, less academic discussions, less indie hackers and entrepreneurs, less fashion/brand/style enthusiasts...
Memes and entertainment are too shallow and can be found anywhere, we need to focus on getting some people focused on the deeper end. Reddit's strength is in its long tail of interests. Instead of running blackouts or general protests, we should have focused on bringing one specific community to Lemmy (like e.g, knitting), figure out the issues and support them to migrate fully. If we pulled that off, other communities would have a template to emulate.
I still appreciate Lemmy more. It's more intimate and people are way more respectful. Also, Reddit is full of shit comments. Lemmy comments aren't perfect or amazing, but I visited Reddit this week looking for memes (agree with your point on quantity of memes) and perused the comments. I forgot how stupid and formulaic Reddit can be. I'm really happy that didn't transfer over to Lemmy.
The way I see it is that when I've run out of content on Lemmy, that's my indication to put down my phone and do something else. My buddy framed it in that way during a discussion we had the other day and I think he hit the nail on the head.
I imagine this is controversial, but I appreciate that there’s less entertainment here. I’ve already had more decent discussions here in the last 6 months, even if I disagreed strongly with the other person, than I have on Reddit since the 3rd party app debacle.
The constant churn of what some people consider entertaining, or the never-ending effort in attempts to be the entertaining and flippant comment that gets upvotes even on serious subjects really just gets old. I don’t mean to say people shouldn’t have a sense of humor, but when everything starts to revolve around cheap quips and retreads of the same old comments, that’s stagnation. Any serious sub big enough to damp that behavior also tends to be more exclusive of outside opinion.
So I guess I’m happy with news, politics, tech, and porn - though I have to admit I blocked out a crapton of the porn when Lemmy was new because it was overwhelming so I don’t see much of that in /all anymore.
entertainment
memes
I'm surprised by this, I feel like memes are everywhere
The gloomyness is definitely a problem. Progressives are usually better at empathy so they feel everyone's pain. And if you are looking for it you'll find shit and pain all day long.
We need more positive posts on here.
but there’s way less meme or entertainment content here
Good!
We already have instances that go down or suffer from intermittent federation issues when lemmy.world gets a bit more active. The most conservative estimates are putting Reddit at 75 million DAU. If we get to 1% of that, you can bet that our current network would choke, badly.
Not only we need more instances, we also need to be a lot smarter about their organization and how to architect this network. I think we will only be able to grow larger if we make a more intentional separation between topic-based instances and "people-home" instances, so that we can have a better spread of the load.
The total federated bandwith is definatly a bottle neck we are starting to approach (ie what we see with .world and it overloading small instances). Not sure the solution here but I'm sure we can work past it without compromising on decentralisation.
We need more instances, but we need to be a lot smarter about the structure. I think we will only be able to grow larger if we make a more intentional separation between topic-based instances and "people-home" instances, so that we can have a better spread of the load.
I don't know if it would help with load-balancing, but I feel hash tags would be better than communities.
Maybe an odd take, but I think one of the things missing to make people move over more is porn. So I’m trying to help - https://xxxiver.se
Cum for the porn, stay for the memes
Interesting! We've had quite a noticeable spike of sign-ups on lemm.ee as well
I’m now here due to the Reddit news. I’m still browsing both, but I look forward to changing over.
Welcome! I have noticed the last week or two that there has been a real influx of activity, and it's now basically the same experience for larger subreddits/lemmy communities. All we need is some niche community and better cross/instance community combining and we're golden. Enjoy!
I like lemmy, people can actually see comments too, theyre not drowned out
My oldest Reddit account was close to 15 years old and I haven't logged into any of them for almost 2 years. All the same content and none of the Reddit BS.
I'm new here coming from Reddit.
Yalls subreddit needs links to here. And a short guide on getting started.
I had to scroll a bunch of comments to find the right name to Google. Then I had to find the most popular app to use. It was a bit of a hassle. Not too bad. But enough to be off-putting to newbies.
The benefit is also it's curse. It's all open, so there can be a bunch of names and a bunch of apps. Nobody agrees what the best app is.
But once you get your own ecosystem set up, it is amazing.
Which is a huge hurdle for new people 😬
Welcome!
I usually link to
As the other comment said, linking to a specific app isn't that easy, choosing between former Reddit clients like Sync and Boost for instance is already tough, and then you include Lemmy exclusive apps like Jerboa, Voyager, Thunder, etc.
Feel free if you have any question
It's the filter 😁, glad you made it, welcome!
Please tell your friends to join LemmyWorld (biggest instance) and install the app Voyager (cross platform support) to get started on the platform!
tell your friends to join LemmyWorld
Is there a reason you recommend LemmyWorld? It's not great to funnel everyone onto the largest instance. I usually recommend lemm.ee.
I'd love it if subs had tags, so they were more easy to sort through.
https://lemmyverse.net/communities is usually quite good to sort through them.
You can set up your home instance using the house icon to open the communities directly on your instance
Every time reddit announces something dumb I open Lemmy again. I'd rather be here on principle but the content/users just aren't here yet. Where are the cross post bots?
The content/users aren't here so I'm stubbornly trying to post content and comment whenever I can.
Even if I shout into the void, or get a few upvotes and little other engagement.
Although I understand it's not for everyone, I encourage you to help out with that ;-;
Even if I shout into the void, or get a few upvotes and little other engagement.
For people in similar situations, !fedigrow@lemm.ee
I was never much of an /r/all user, it's always been niche communities for me. I feel like almost all of my niches have content here now (if not quite as much engagement as I'd like). !retrogaming@lemmy.world in particular has exploded with activity lately and arguably can now serve as a full replacement for its subreddit counterpart.
Thing is, when I try to bring people on Lemmy, it's always "why?" and if I make it that far, "how?" With the how, I've been using the analogy of signing up for email, though it's still not as smooth as it could be. Eyes glaze over when anyone starts asking me about how the Fediverse in general works.
The why is harder. I don't know how much user bleed-over niche Reddit got from /r/all users but I'm guessing it wasn't a trivial amount. I'm sure a lot of Reddit's growth was owed to AMAs, so it's possible Lemmy might need something flashy to draw in users who will then filter into communities waiting for them. Some sort of content unique to the platform. I do think before we get there we need a friendlier way to help new people find communities they may have interest in.
That's what I'm doing. I got 2 subs that I frequented on Reddit I'm running, one is a sports one with discussions for the events, and it's literally just me putting commentary into it. But that's what I loved about the Reddit sports subs, so I'll at least have it for when people come here.
Thanks for your service. I'm more of a lurker, though I tend to comment more here than on Reddit, and I have so many other things filling my life that I have to tend to. This is just a distraction before bed or filling a dull moment.
Which content are you interested in?
https://lemmit.online/ can be used to crosspost content from Reddit, but you won't get much comments as people tend to prefer content curated by humans
!newcommunities@lemmy.world has a weekly thread with active communities.
Out of curiosity, what content are you looking for? Discovery on Lemmy can be a problem, but sometimes the communities are there and even active, just buried.
But may I also suggest searching by Top Day/12-hour/6-hour to see the most active posts. Lemmy's scaled algorithm still doesn't get it quite right IMO.
Scaled is intentionally promoting communities with fewer subscribers. It's intentionally demoting the most active posts bt demoting any posts from the communities with more subscribers.
Just.. content. I open my Lemmy app once and I've seen everything it will show me for the day, or sometimes for multiple days. I open reddit and I can scroll for hours.
Cross post bots? Why cross post bots?
every time spez opens his mouth a bunch of people go "hmm let me see if there's something else"
I'm out of the loop. What dumb thing did he do now?
Paywalled subreddits and killing old.reddit.
There are a few threads on !reddit@lemmy.world
It is lower from where it was in june (48.472) and the data seem to indicate a negative trajectory , also lemmy donations seem to be the lowest i remember them to be.
So i would not get too confident, the project IMO needs to focus on highly requested killer features. My impression they focusing too much on technical issues that don't seem to be really important in a way that reminds me of the infamous The CADT Model rant of Jamie Zawinski. Do we really need to do a UI rewrite?
That's weird! I go on Lemmy daily and it's been feeling a lot busier IMO.
The CADT model...that was a short but fun read. I have definitely encountered that model many times in the various jobs.
Years ago, when I was a developer, I loved fixing bugs in other people's code. I felt like I learned a lot from that, and I got a sense of accomplishment out of it. It made users happy, it made my boss happy, and the puzzle solving aspect of it was fun. I was what they called a "maintenance programmer" which was something of an insult, but I didn't mind.
Unfortunately most developers I know hate everyone else's code, think others' code is "garbage" (every single time) and they definitely have a lot more fun building something from scratch than doing bug fixes. They even hate their own code once it's a few months old. Always chasing for the perfect architecture, etc. Which is unfortunate, there's tremendous value in repairing and upgrading existing things.
TF2 community greatly values efforts of The Janitor - sole full-time developer, fixing old bugs in TF2.
there’s tremendous value in repairing and upgrading existing things.
Value created doesn't translate to value extracted and VCs and managers and marketers and the general public fork over more money in exchange for new shiny than old, reliable, maintained. There are few exceptions.
I'm out of the loop, what are the highly requested features?
Multi communities, tags, dedicated moderation dashboard
I suppose for me more compact posts and in community search.
I was so confused when I heard about lemmy-ui-leptos, it really sounds like a waste of time to me 🤷♂️
I'm sure everyone has a different opinion, but I think the most important new feature should be the plugin system. It seems like the only way to scale up the number of contributors and support a variety of languages.
Yes, that could be huge
I like Lemmy's culture better. It isn't perfect, and maybe someday I'll create my own instance. And I can do that.
There's a bit of an echo in some places.
That's just human s though. The only way to fix that is force everyone and everything onto All.
It feels more condusive.
The culture's a bit too reddit-like for my taste, but it's alright and some communities are better about it
To me it feels like Reddit but before Reddit became so popular. That has both good and bad aspects, but overall I enjoy posting here.
Came here after the API bullshit. Takes a little getting used to but it scratches that same itch
Probably due to Reddit fuckary. Between power-hungry, ban-happy mods and Reddit talking about possibly charging for select subs, I definitely bailed and came here.
Two days old today, baaabbby!!
Doing my part tho! I've created 5 communities and have posted over 100 times in the last two days. :)
That is crazy. Nice work! :D
Thank you. Everyone is calling me a troll and saying things like, "Troll alert. Account is only 2 days old!"
But WTF? Are we supposed to wait after we create an account to start posting?
No. I created an account so I could START posting. lol
Welcome!
I got banned from reddit for criticizing the mods of a popular subreddit. Perm-ban on a white vest account for saying the mods are crybabies as they once again complained about having to mod the sub.
Fuck reddit. Fuck spez.
I agree. I came here for two reasons:
Though I still do crave the niche communities from Reddit and I might occassionally visit Reddit once in a while on my browser for them, otherwise the ads are pretty unbearable for me. The UI is also so fucking bloated. Fuck spez
Reddit mods seem to be something else lately
Fuckers banned me too
Welcome!
I pretty much got permabanned for ban evasion, even though I was on an alt that has no reference to the others other than being on the same IP, my other accounts got banned simultaneously.
Same thing happened to me. 7-day ban evasion suspension instantly into a perma on three accounts at once all because a single subreddit mod threw a fit when I accidentally posted there again off r/all on an alt.
They were all made with the same email address so I could have easily made another alt by now and kept posting but I've taken it as an opportunity to do a Reddit detox
As a new user it's nice seeing so many new users in this thread.
Active accounts is not active users. We shouldn't lie to ourselves. I wouldn't be surprised if the number of active users is half of the active account number.
You think that, on average, half of active users are alts...?
No. I think that there are enough users with multiple accounts including bots that it wouldn't surprise me if the ratio of active users to active accounts is 1:2.
Alts or bots, maybe
THE YEAR OF THE FEDIVERSE
Is thus just for one instance or across many instances
All of the instances
How do you track activity across all instances? How do you discover them all?
Does this include people who don't post or comment much?
Active means one vote, post or comment in the last month
I'm doing my part.
Not saying it’s the bots… but it’s the bots, isn’t it?
This guy bots.
Love it!
Good to see.
I’m here after the reddit news. Was a little confusing at first.
By the way, what are “subreddits” called on lemmy? I can see they start with “c/“ instead of “r/“.
Noice, I'm surprised more people didn't move over.
Hey congratulations you discovered a statistical anomaly.
It may be, but could you try making the same remark without sounding like a toxic asshole?
Didn't sound like a toxic asshole to me. But I grew up in the rural midwest in the 90s. That just sounds like someone making a comment, from my culture.
But go on, policing everyone's tone. I'm sure it's great for diversity.
Congratulations you discovered pointless negativity
Congratulations you discovered framing
Only 50k? I thought it would be much more than that. Didn't know Lemmy was still this small after all these years.
There are probably a lot of lurkers who don't vote or comment, but there is no way to know their numbers
Welcome, now post some fresh me mes please. Also more cat photos
We just got ourselves some kittens... I gotta start posting some OC!
Hope our Lemmy community keeps growing stronger!
To the moooooon
So not DNC bots/bot-like-humans then.
Definitely plenty of DNC stans here, but definitely not as ban-happy as Reddit was when it comes to having a different opinion.
We've definitely noticed an increase in signups at lemmy.ca when that news was announced. Not all active users yet, but a lot of signups
Thanks for the insight!
Can’t wait for more research and development on Lemmy from the new users!