12mo ago

Donald Trump rails at "fake" polls as Kamala Harris overtakes him

www.newsweek.com /donald-trump-polls-fake-kamala-harris-1934517

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On X, political commentator Ed Krassenstein, a frequent Trump critic, commented on the change of opinion about polling numbers among the former president's supporters.

"MAGA is breaking down. They are back to calling the polls fake just because they don't reflect what they want them to say," Krassenstein wrote. "It's funny how they touted the polls when Trump was up."

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He's preparing his base for another January 6th.
- Has been for 4 years now. It's so frustrating to watch play out in front of our eyes.
  
  When he picked JD Vance he thought for sure he was going to win and almost certainly would have.
- Yup. For the last few months it's been nothing but "Biden is old and loves open borders," but when Kamala starts to pull ahead it's, "be on the lookout for runaway fraud".
  
  Yeah, we should have been revving up the fraud engine when Biden was decaying in front of our eyes on national television. Setting it up only after we switch to a young active candidate who gives people hope for a change seems kind of unnecessary.
- hopi g this time with an American in the white house anyone approaching the capitol will be met with 20mm cannonfire.
- Honest question, as a non-American.
  Surely any and all secret services will be fully prepared this time, and if some MAGA nutjobs were to try it would result in an absolute massacre, right?
  Would they be dumb enough to try? I know that you're all armed to the teeth, but the US Army and Secret Service versus a bunch of cousin-fucking redneck bois is likely to end up in the former winning pretty handily.
  
  See, you'd think. But unfortunately, as an old song once put it: some of those who work forces are the same who burn crosses
  
  I think you're right. The last one only kinda almost worked bc bloated mussolini was calling the shots behind deployment of security forces like the national guard. Next time meal team 6 won't just be waltzing past an overwhelmed few capitol police.
  
  Remember that fascists think of their enemy as being both weak and strong at the same time. This gives them a blind spot where they're incapable of weighing their enemy's true strength.
  They'll try, but they're not as strong as they think they are. The number of Trump voters actually willing to get violent isn't very big. Could get very bloody in a short period of time, but they'll ultimately lose.
  
  I think the bigger issue this time is the potential for distributing the violence to smaller markets, so to speak - polling places, county clerk's offices, secretaries of state, even state houses when they vote to certify their state results.
- He’s preparing his base for another January 6th.
  Let's bring stochastic terrorism back into the parlance.
- That's too sloppy. They're gonna go for thing where it goes to, I forget if it was a house of reps vote or where each state gets a singular vote.
  
  The electoral system? (Each state is supposed to get a number of votes based on their population)
- No he's not. They won't need to storm the capitol because he will already have stolen the votes.
  
  A lot harder to steal the votes when you're not already sitting in the oval office
They're never fake when he's ahead, tho'.
Weird.
Weren't they "fake" in 2016 and 2020 too? The man has such a limited vocabulary, no wonder he appeals to morons.
- It was widely reported at the time, but vocabulary analysis put him at about 8th grader level.
  
  That's a surprisingly in-depth analysis, appreciated. Donnie's brain has been rotting for almost seven additional years now, and the loud noises coming out of his face hole have only become less impressive. It's safe to say he never made it out of middle school.
- They might feel like they were right in 2016 given Trump ultimately did win the election (despite losing popular vote).
  
  The polls were correct in that Clinton won the popular vote. They were wrong on the electoral college outcome, but that came down to several states with razor thin margins being decided well under any margin of error for polls.
  
  A lot of people believed they were wrong. They were pretty damn right, but humans suck at statistics. Hence the reason Vegas exists as a tourist destination.
that's how you win an electrician. by faking poles
- I’m positive that’s along the lines of their thinking. However, your guess is negative.
  
  I thought you just won electricians by being flirtatious on the job site.
- How does one win an electrician and why would you want one? Their upkeep is very expensive, have you priced a new Fluke meter lately? And they tend to lose them regularly too.
- This is the best aneurysm I've ever read
Funny how the polls were "hugely precise" when they favored him.
- The melting mango is losing his shit. I don't think his ticker can take the stress, especially considering it's fueled mostly with hamberders. I'm calling it now-- if he loses the Nov election he'll have a heart attack within 6 months.
  
  My money is on a massive stroke and noone actually recognizes it because the new word salad is just like the old word salad
Survived a gunshot, killed by the polls less than a month later.
What a weak shitheel.
Oh man, he is big mad (and kinda obviously scared), and that makes me quite happy.
The only thing going on that's fake, is him.
- Is being an "Orangicist" a thing? I think I'm that.
If Trump wins electoral but loses popular again there better be fucking riots
Trumps brain at any given moment: If it is critical of me it must be ____________ 1. Fake 2. A hoax 3. A lie 4. Socialist 5. Communist 6. Horrible. 7. Random noises 8. China 9. Change the topic
Trump: Looks at Venezuela. "Wait! If I get my cronies in charge of counting the vote and they declare me winner even if it doesn't match the polls, people aren't going to believe it? Well, I better start denigrate the polls!"
Real electoral maps and fake polls below (note electoral maps will become fake if they show any tinge of orange falling behind):
2024 Election Poll Aggregators, Aggregated (August 6, 2024) - Harris vs. Trump
Sources:
270toWin
RealClearPolling
RealClearPolitics
FiveThirtyEight
- Gotta plug electoral-vote.com Aggregators of ev polling. Lefty as hell in commentary, but dead neutral in the math.
  Credit @saigot for catching my screwup, edited to correct url.
  
  Nice graphics 😉 thanks, neat! Old-school looking but very clear.
  electoral-vote.com (hyphenated)
  
  I think you mistyped, that domain is up for sale.
Ol wrinkled pussy cant be a self responsible adult enough to just roll with the punches
Media Bias Fact Check | bot support
They are back to calling the polls fake just because they don’t reflect what they want them to say,” Krassenstein wrote. “It’s funny how they touted the polls when Trump was up.”
To be fair, before Biden stepped down all the neoliberals called polls fake. And as soon as they started showing Kamala in the lead they act like they've always trusted polls.
The far right of both parties are remarkably similar, and shouldn't be running either party.
- all the neoliberals called polls fake.
  No they didn't. I've literally never once experienced that except from a conservative who is losing.
  "Fuck polls" is not the same as "polls are fake". In one, it's being suggested they're not always a great data source so vote regardless. In the other, it's suggested "they are made up to manipulate the public because everyone persecutes us."
- Nobody on the left was saying the polls were fake because they skewed left. They were saying the polls were unreliable because they skew right toward older voters who answer phone calls and polling questions. But also regardless polls aren't votes and a lot of people sleep on politics until immediately before voting.
- Polls generally are skewed towards older conservatives - millennials and younger would rather stab out their own eyes than answer a pollster.
  
  That's not how polls work. If they get disproportionately fewer responses from millennials, they weight their responses to account for the actual number of millennials. They don't just give every responder equal weight and assume there are simply fewer millennials.
- It would be just peachy if You could give us some examples.
  
  crickets.jpg
- Lol, this guy again. Talking his bullshit but not backing it up.

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2024 Election Poll Aggregators, Aggregated (August 6, 2024) - Harris vs. Trump