Flight instinct intensifies

Add time tracking for time tracking with every other task.

I actually did this at my previous job. They wanted me to time track everything I did to the minute so I started adding time spent tracking my time. Boss hated it but couldn't really do anything to get me to stop
- to the minute. that sounds like you would be in a time tracking loop. I keep track to the half hour but mainly as that is a convenient calendar segmentation.
- Got any tips for how to keep track when you flip between tasks so often? Program or app or paper and pen tracking?
The malicious compliance that is needed.
- It's not malicious. If the client wants to waste your time, you bill for the time wasted.
  Anyway, my preference is still to run away.
Then start adding time for time tracking time cracking
- Do you know how much time tracking you would have to do to track the time tracking of tracking time?

It's simple: Either the project management team keeps the customer away from my time tracking or I'll keep my time away from that customer

Had that once. Never again.

We had meetings with several people about 30min tasks being booked using the wrong category, despite both being part of the same budget. Absolute insanity.

My favorite was getting reamed because you put 30 minutes over the estimated hours on a task.
It made task accounting a nightmare as you'd have to dump hours onto unrelated task whenever something inevitably took longer than expected.
- Such incredible bullshit. Tracking is to learn and see where things go right and wrong.
  The fact manglement then puts the onus on the employee to cook te books for them is bizarre. Once tasks go over budget you can have a talk about it in a retrospective or something. But half hours.. makes no sense.
- my friend. you need to learn the scotty method.
- Yeah which is getting into time card fraud territory. Which is just encouraged by asinine time tracking policies.
Someone really needs to justify their job?
- The usual response is to overload them with work and basically hound them for ticket numbers, time allocation, budgets and adhere to a very rigid "no ticket, no work" version of the company policy. Preferably with all colleagues at the same time, just waiting at his desk before the boss walks in.
- In that case, absolutely, yes.
  Basically, their work was moved into other teams and it was obvious, that within a rather short time frame their team would be dissolved. And one way they thought to avoid that was to appear inexpensive by pushing any accountability away. Didn't work.
Had the same once. At the beginning we discussed every Hour. I left the project after about half a year for various reasons. Being the only guy left from the initial team (as a freelancer!) I said I’ld still support the other guys but only from remote.
The annoying boss left shortly after. Initial project estimation (made by him) was wrong big time. The new boss stopped caring and the project is around 2500 hours above budget for one task alone.
That’s the project of three months for you that will reach its fourth year soon. To be fair the main machine is finished. But the scope is always changing… Customers doing customer things 🤷🏻‍♂️

One time when I was contracting and my company was in the middle of a merger I had to do triple time keeping; client, old company, new company, all on different systems, two of which were ancient hr software from the 90s for some reason still in use 5 years ago. Its at that point I just started blanket logging 6 hours per day on whatever project I could think of at the moment.

So obviously this sucks, however.

Look into timewarrior+taskwarrior. They're the only tools I've ever seen for these types of tasks that don't fucking suck ass.

Then they never ask for non-ticket work outside of that... right?! (Somehow I suspect this person will want it to go their way both ways)

Hated this in one past job. It gave me great joy to quit and work somewhere that wasn't bean counting. But I can say that RescueTime with Toggl was pretty handy to track stuff. RescueTime would autotrack the time spent in different apps and tabs. Toggl allowed me to do a simple start/stop with a label for more focused work.