Elon Musk’s transgender daughter radically influenced his shift to the right. A lot of trans people have family members like him

No no no no NO!

This is some guilt-tripping, gaslighting, deflecting DARVO bullshit, and I won’t have it.

Bigots do not become bigots because of their exposure to “others”. When those of us who are “others” [refuse to tolerate the intolerance of others] (out of principle or justifiable self-defense) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance), their frustration and their lashing-out as a result is not our fault. Nobody can be held responsible for another individual’s lack of emotional self-control.

When people act out with violence, motivated by hate, fear, and ignorance, they are to blame— never the victims.

Someone being at fault for something, and someone unintentionally influencing another, are two separate things.
Family members going down toxic rabbit holes as a response to someone close to them coming out, is just that - a response to someone close to them coming out. It is quite literally cause and effect.
That doesn’t mean that the family member’s bigotry is the person’s problem though, nor should they feel any sense of blame whatsoever.
- I’m not talking about causing effect. What I’m saying is that one family members decision to embrace hatred and bigotry is not the fault or the responsibility of the family member who came out of the closet. The family member who decided and made the choice to become a hateful bigot did so of their own accord, and the family member who bravely chose to live as their own self is not to blame for that.
  One thing may have led to the other, but that does not mean that one thing inherits responsibility or blame for the other.
  t’s not so simple as an assumed reaction as you imply: it’s not one object striking another, transferring energy, and causing the next object to move. This other family member chooses hate and bigotry and then to act on those ideologies and feelings. That is not the same as the simple thing you reference.
- OP is an idiot. That's like saying exposure to anything doesn't precipitate a response. It does.
  His response or change may be directly caused by his experiences. We also have no idea what their interactions were.
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No she didn't.

Elon Musk is what he always was. He wants you to scapegoat his daughter because that's easy for him. He's a piece of shit entirely on his own, don't blame her for his vile nature.

This article does a poor job of discussing Elon (but that’s not really the point of the article). Vivian has talked about how she felt Elon became more radical as she transitioned. That not blaming her, it’s listening to what she has to say
- Oh your description is fitting but the headline is... Well I perceive it as poisonous, especially with the knowledge that headlines are often the only thing being read.
Classic TERF island headline. "Trans people turn billionaires into conservatives." 🙄

His daughter did not influence him. That makes it sounds like the daughter was the cause of him shifting right.

Musk reacted to the fact that his daughter was trans. His reaction was taking off his mask and being the piece of shit he already was more openly.

Edit: Not sure why I didn't think to include it at the time, but the healine has a real “Husband beat wife because she burnt dinner.” vibe to it.

I think it’s more accurate to say that his reaction led him down toxic rabbit holes that warped his opinions and beliefs into what they are now.
Obviously we’ll never know, but I’ve personally known people who’ve genuinely changed as they got lost down various paths. Someone who’s indoctrinated into a cult, for example, obviously wasn’t indoctrinated as they came out of the womb. They weren’t always like that, it instead happened to them as some point.
This is the correct answer. These people have always been this shitty.

Elon Musk’s transgender daughter brought his far-right bigotry to light. A lot of trans people have family members like him.

FTFY

Yeah don't blame Elon's stupidity on her!

I'm confused. I don't see any victim blaming in the article. Most of the article is lending a voice to trans/NB people to tell how hard it is, when someone in their family is bigoted and anti trans to begin with and how they, instead of trying to understand, doubled down on their hatred and bigotry and became nasty after they came out.

People do not become right wing bigots, because they have a trans child or cousin. But for some its hard to confront their own bigotry when suddenly the thing they "fear" is in their own backyard. So they react the opposite and burrow down deeper in right wing hatred.

Can we not acknowledge that this is an effect often hapening in right wing families when a family member comes out? That doesnt mean the coming out is at fault. Its bigots doubling down on their bigotry, because they can not, like normal people, reflect on their stance and admit, that maybe they were wrong.

Vivian was victimized by her father's heartless disregard and rejection of her identity. Elon is now going around stating a narrative that her coming out to him is at least a significant contributing reason he is a fascist ("I lost my son to the woke mind virus"), a narrative that this headline plays directly into. You can take the same sequence of facts and headline it as "Musk is going public with the same bigotry that he wielded against his transgender daughter. A lot of trans people have family members like him" that doesn't make it sound like Elon Musk would have been politely building his rockets and evs in a corner if only his daughter hadn't come out as trans, and doesn't make it sound like Vivian indirectly donated 10s of millions of dollars to Trump's 2024 campaign by coming out as someone that that exact campaign wants to suppress. The headline as written is almost a threat to closeted trans people. "Yeah, your parents may be Schrodinger's bigots right now, but come out and they will go full scorched earth to dehumanize you and you will be responsible for their shift".
I'm pretty sure you are agreeing that that isn't the case, and it wouldn't surprise me if the text of the article is also aligned against that message, but the headline (probably written by an editor hungry for rage clicks) is solidly aligned to it, and should be called out for that
- This is what her hot air balloon of a excuse for a farher said, not the article. Be angry and speak out against Elon Musks bigotry. Not about what you "think" an article you actually didn't read might have said because of your interpretation of a headline.
  We all should know by now that this click bait shit is all hot air most of the time, so why play into it?
  I feel like a lot of people here still have to learn how to deal with todays sensationalist internet media. Don't believe everything you (didn't) read at first glance.
  If you consume todays "news" only by headlines, without looking behind it and using your own common sense and critical thinking, you are bound to come out with a very distorted world view.
My dad is very conservative but hates Trump and his racism etc. But he's always been anti LGBT etc cause of religion. Fast forward to now and one of his grand children is trans and the other gay. My siblings and I have taken a stance of "if you don't like it there's the door" and we've given him no option but to accept it unless he wants to die alone. It forced him to at least watch what he says and to shut the fuck up about his opinions he's not willing to change.
Yeah but it's easier to just claim outrage at the click bait title and not read the article tbf
- Why get nuanced when you can get owned?

Exactly my thoughts. Straight up blaming the victim, who was a child at the time of Musk going public with the right wing views he's had for decades.
- A child he barely had a relationship with. In her NBC interview, she said that, despite having equal custody, she was with her mother 90% of the time and some of the time with her father was for PR for his companies.
  He also tried to get her to be masculine and insulted her for being queer even before she came out.
  This is utter bullshit.

I wouldn't say she influenced his extremist views, as much as she shined a light upon them.

So Elon was like gasoline and his daughter deciding to transition was a spark?

There has been no shift to the right. He's always been on the right. Just because he makes electric cars doesn't mean he's some ultra-leftie. He saw an opportunity to invest in a promising technology and he did it. Then he threw the public some bones about environmentalism that he doesn't actually care about to make more money.

Also, I, for one, am glad black men have mostly stopped radically influencing white people from public lynchings these days.

I'm so tired of hearing about this guy.

He was always a far right crazo.

At last last we found the architect of all of society's woes: Vivian Wilson.

It was the transes all along! (/s)

Fuck this victim blaming ass headline. Not clicking on it.

I know from some experience that parents eventually make peace with their children for cultural differences like these, at least some of them do

Elon Musk doesn't give a shit about his kids, he's just a weirdo with a breeding fetish.
- Like his dad