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White neighbour who fatally shot Black mother in row over children playing pleads not guilty to manslaughter

www.independent.co.uk

White neighbour who fatally shot Black mother pleads not guilty to manslaughter

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It's such bullshit that you can just claim you feared for your life (because gasp, your neighbor knocks on your door) and it gets charges reduced.
US stand your ground laws are barbaric and insane. Most of the world knows it, but a significant number of Americans still stand by them.
Also, I don't get why they have to reduce the charges before the trial? Can't they charge both manslaughter and murder and let the jury figure it out?
- Stand your ground was not the reason the charges were reduced, it was the reason why she wasn't arrested immediately. The charges were reduced because the prosecution doesn't have sufficient evidence for 2nd degree murder charges to stick, so they are bringing charges they know they can prove in court. I have no clue why they can't do both charges and I totally agree with you on the stand your ground laws...
  
  Shooting someone isn't good enough evidence to change for murder? What other uses do guns have?
- As much as people don't want to hear this, the actions of the victim will likely lead to her getting off. At least if the initial articles are to be believed. The initial articles described the victim as being fairly aggressive in how she pounded on her door and demanded the woman come out. If that plays in court at all, you won't get a jury to convict her.
  
  How is aggressive pounding on a door justification for shooting through said door? She wasn't the Hulk. She couldn't knock the door down.
It would 100% not surprise me if she took a plea rather than go to trial, and pleading not guilty is just the start of that process of setting up a plea she will plead guilty to.
Lorincz allegedly “called [Owens’] children racial slurs”. But the attorney thought there was insufficient evidence that she had “hatred, spite, ill will or evil intent toward Owens”.
A lot depends on the credibility of those allegations. If they’re good enough for the independent to report, shouldn’t they be good enough to support “ill will”?
- The independent reporting allegations means that they're reporting what one of the parties is saying. Not that the independent has evidence of it. That's as wrong as saying "They plead not guilty - if that's good enough for the independent to report, shouldn't it be enough to support them not being guilty?"
  Either way, it's going to court, and likely she'll be convicted of manslaughter.
  
  Fair point
Well, to be fair, she isn't guilty of manslaughter; I completely agree with that...
fatally shot
Weird way of spelling "murdered"
This is Florida the absolute racist shithole of the country. I expect nothing less from these savages.
Shes from Florida so Desantis will probably give her a medal and she'll be brought on his presidential campaign tour to screech about woke mind virus and cancel culture.
- Oh I'm just waiting for them to say some violent act or other is justified because they were fighting wokeism. It's coming.
Far out, why the hell isn't firing a deadly weapon at a person not sufficient evidence that you bore them "ill will"?! The fact that she feared for her life when confronted by the person should only cement that evidence.
"This woman made me fear for my life so I fired my hugs and kisses gun at her in the hope that she would feel my genuine love and empathy for her. I was not aware that my hugs and kisses were so powerful they could kill a person. I am sad we shall never be the best friends that I dreamt of as I racially and physically abused her small children."
Of course Florida.
LOL its again the one and only - US of A. Nothing to see here. Move along 🙈

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