Russia's LGBTQ+ community is turning to Telegram as the government cracks down on them
Russia's LGBTQ+ community is turning to Telegram as the government cracks down on them - LGBTQ Nation
Telegramm and "safe"?
Sorry, but these people must have been living under a rock (which actually is quite likely as we are talking about Russia).
Telegram has control over the content and channels and has been working with governments in the past.
This is what happens when western people read such articles. They turn into denial. Telegram is basically the safest place in Russia's digital space.
these people must have been living under a rock
Russians are very advanced when it comes to the internet. They spend more time in it because real life sucks more than in other countries.
Telegram has control over the content and channels
Doesn't mean anything. Especially for groups who just want to communicate.
has been working with governments in the past
There is not enough evidence to support the probability of telegram making steps to make finding gay people easier for Russian authorities.
Telegram requires a phone number. That's a none starter for me. There's a huge number of services that don't. This might as well be a honey pot for trapping more lgbt people. Russia has used dating services before in their crackdowns.
Telegram is basically the safest place in Russia's digital space.
Yep. Alternatives are:
Everything else is not popular.
these people must have been living under a rock
Russians are very advanced when it comes to the internet.
Putin does try to bring Russia into stone age. Russians are very advanced thanks for 1990-2016 period when goverment didn't try to destroy internet.
They spend more time in it because real life sucks more than in other countries.
This is true. We probably have second worst healthcare after America.
Russians are very advanced when it comes to the internet.
I do not doubt that for marginalized groups such as the LGBTQ comunity, who have to watch every step they do. But given the restrictions placed on everyday online services in Russia I'd assume the average citizen has harder time.
Doesn't mean anything. Especially for groups who just want to communicate.
A subset of society that's marginalized at best and killed at the worst doesn't care about who can read and influence their communication? That seems highly shortsighted to me.
There is not enough evidence to support the probability of telegram making steps to make finding gay people easier for Russian authorities.
That we know of. Given that the company behind Telegram has been involved in various sketchy situations I wouldn't bet my wellbeing on a service that might or might not share information with a corrupt government..
If you think Telegram isn’t a project by the Kremlin, I have a nice plot of land to sell to you. On Uranus.
Coming soon to the U.S. courtesy of the GOP.
Conservatism is a plague.
And France with le pen.
And the Netherlands with Wilders
There's a Russian guy I know in some... adult roleplay circles.., kinkiest chap I know. I worry about him... He tried telling me Telegram was "safer", didn't know what he meant.
He meant it is not controlled by FSB like VK and mailru shit and doesn't show phone number to entire world like whatsapp.
Lemmy is not designed to provide reasonably-hardened anonymity in the sort of way that Hyphanet, I2P, or maybe Tor or something like that is.
I would not recommend using Lemmy if I were seriously concerned about government prosecution for content on it.
Lemmy's a good alternative for something like Reddit.
lavender.ltgc.i2p exists. It's Lemmy instance avaliable from i2p and tor. But it's mostly pony instance.
Hm. As long as you only interact with Lemmy through a (trusted) VPN, or even through Tor, you're just as safe using Lemmy as you would be any other website. Servers can always see your IP by default, and the owners of those servers can be coerced to give it away by whatever external forces. If you hide your IP, they can't. That's pretty much it.
Shout out to that one user named Good Girl who swore that being on Hexbear and Lemmygrad meant she got better treatment than the rest of lemmy.
I hope she gets over her self-hatred and loves herself as much as outside of those spaces.
I'm missing out on this particular bit of Lemmy Lore, did something happen?
Yeah I’d like to see them justify that
At a guess: "these things are necessary to secure the state from Western agitators and things will change."
I've heard plenty of "LGBT Rights is wrong because it means forcing Western Values on other cultures" stories from Tankies. It was enough to prove Horseshoe Theory to me.
Rather proves those were Pro-Russia trolls posing as something else
Horseshoe theory, the one where we call countries doing what we do communists to avoid facing our own failures?
you‘ve never been on hexbear, have you?
I'm unsure what you think a tankie is.
Someone who supports Imperialism when America/"the West" isn't doing it. Really, that's all it boils down to.
you again. 🤦♂️
Russia is terrible on LGBT rights.
Being a tankie doesn't mean that you agree with everything any non-Western state does, it just means that you're critical of war and are willing to consider internationalist perspectives.
What? It absolutely does not. It means you're an authoritarian "communist".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie