YouTube Is Cracking Down on Gun Content, and 3D-Printed Gun Makers Aren't Happy
YouTube Is Cracking Down on Gun Content, and 3D-Printed Gun Makers Aren't Happy
People sitting at home 3D printing guns aren't happy? Who could have guessed.
A gun is a technological marvel of a thing. Scientifically they are really very interesting. How they work is kind of ingenious, and their history and how they have so drastically changed the course of all history is fascinating.
I don't want to say that these people probably are all in that boat. But being a gun nut who wants to shoot someone isn't the only reason to find something interesting. I feel the same way about fireworks and nuclear bombs. Looking at the work that had to be done by so many people in order to make a nuclear bomb and calculate what it would and could do? That's as cool and intriguing as a space shuttle or an oil rig drill.
3D printing is also really cool in and of itself.
3D printed guns are being used by fighters in Myanmar.
https://3dprint.com/302100/myanmar-rebels-rely-on-3d-printed-guns-to-fight-military-junta/amp/
They’re pretty important if you want to be anti-authoritarian.
How is this relevant? They will still be able to watch YouTube videos about the topic like before, it’s just age restrictions for under 18
I think the people who get up in arms over 3d printed guns forget that most people will never develop the skills or even have the prerequisite skills to make one anyways. It isn't like you just plug in the printer, down load a file, and you have a gun. You need to learn alot of other things to actually make something functional. Things like ECM (electro chemical machining) is often necessary and a whole host of other skills.
Also pretty important if you want to supply white supremacist gangs in the US.
What? Don't they just go to Walmart?
Lol. No. They're already set. Worry about the large number of minorities that have lost their 2A rights to an unjust legal system.
But they already have all the guns?
White supremacist gangs are generally privileged enough to afford regular guns. Crackdowns on gun possession have overwhelmingly targeted and been selectively enforced against black and other non-white communities and left wing groups, whereas Kyle Rittenhouse shot three people at a BLM rally then walked right past the cops who didn't even intercept him, then he was acquitted. The only BLM protestor to shoot someone was basically assassinated by the feds.
There are plenty of problems with guns in the US and I think there are a few regulations around purchasing them that make sense, but this is virtually a non-issue. Printing guns is so time and resource intensive that unless you are arming a militia in a place where the general population has very limited access to guns, it's not really going to change much.
The one other thing you can do with 3d printing is make full-auto guns and modifications, and those are scary but not really important. Full auto has limited tactical use in squads in pitched warfare. Semi auto will work for 99% of cases, and if the need for full auto is coming up a lot, you're probably in a position to use your gun-to-get-a-gun. We're talking about situations where the law has already broken down, like Myanmar.
Now I can understand why the state would be scared of the tech, but I don't see it helping white supremacists. They already have all the help they need.
Those are called cops, and they're already pretty well armed.
Many white supremacists ARE anti-authoritarian.
Soon the only content left on Youtube will be AI generated ads for Ponzi schemes.
We can only hope.
Is this why Ian McCollum's videos are getting altered? Over the years, he's had many historical deep-dives featuring firearms from the Murphy's auction house. In recent months, he's been re-uploading those videos to cover their logo with the word "Morphy's". Even though the auctions are long over, I suppose Google counts them as promoting sales.
I remember something from "forgotten weapons" where he I think he talked about having to retroactively blur the auction house because he didn't work with them anymore or a change in their policy. Not a Google one, I think.
He fucked himself over with some of the auction houses by trying to set up backroom deal to buy a gun outside of the auction. Understandingly they don't appreciate that sort of thing. Ian has a history of not being a great person, but he's good at hiding it from the public eye.
I used to frequent the FOSSCAD IRC ages back as a teen. This started during the post-Liberator panic, there were talks about regulating 3D printers to not allow printing guns, etc. Designed a few things, never actually printed any of it myself, but some others did. Really got me into engineering before I exited the scene, led to actually pursuing an engineering career. Was surprised to see 3D printed gun videos so openly shared, it was pretty underground for ages there.
I used to run the 3D printing community on G+ at around 500k strong, (about 10k weekly active users according to Google's stats) and I ended up actually pissing off a lot of my European users because of this. My viewpoint on it, was as an engineering exercise -- it's an amazing thing. It's not advocating for guns, and guns aren't only used to kill other people. So I stood up for the guys posting about their engineering challenges, and their work making 3D printed parts for a machine with high impact loads and loads of cycling issues.
Unfortunately, it lost me some friends, like Gina Haubage and Tomas Sanladerer -- as they disagreed highly; and wanted to ban anyone posting firearms related 3D printing content.
there is probably no point in fighting this sort of thing, but i wish we would engineer something else instead
Absolutely, it's a fabulous engineering challenge, to make it work well on a hobbyist grade 3D printer with ordinary materials. Also a lesson in using the right tool for the right job (some parts are just better off milled or bought OtS)
PSR is an awesome channel and his music slaps. He doesn't give any instructions or links to files or anything else. He just shows completed examples he built that the community designed. YouTube needs to fuck off with the censorship. The information is all out there. They aren't protecting anybody.
lol as if they are doing it to protect anybody.
nothing YouTube ever does, or Google for that matter, is to protect anything but their ad revenue.
It might quell the lifestyle image of the phenomenon. If it does, it's only a few drops in the bucket.
why should they be OBLIGATED to help the gun nuts?
I thought your type all believed in freedom mate, what right do you have to tell a private corporation how to run their fucking business?
you're just upset they're blocking your fetish.
They can do whatever they want, sure. What I will say is the moving goalposts for certain "undesirable" content is pretty ridiculous especially if you consider the history of YouTube. Several of the first partner channels and many of the oldest YT channels are gun channels. They were glad to exploit that community to build their platform, but will throw them under the bus at every turn if it can be used to virtue signal or pander to advertising partners.
Google is ruining themselves to suck off advertisers. Hopefully someone can fill the gap of YouTube.
Use peertube fools
He's also on odysee
What's that
Decentralized Youtube. Imagine lemmy but for Youtube
Haha, private company, you can't do shit about it.
Lost profits for the gun industry.
Third most popular video on the guy’s channel - a million views. A handgun that can shoot all its bullets in the blink of an eye.
30 years from now if 3D printers are unrestricted, will there be any point to gun control?
Neither the gun nor the switch is 3d printed in that video.
But to answer your question, you can make a firearm from actual trash if you're sufficiently motivated. Look at the different guns Abe's assassin made from a couple of years ago, he even made his own ammunition because of it's lack of availability in Japan. Is the point of gun control as it currently stands to limit access to firearms period or to limit their access to good and more easily available weapons? I would say it is realistically the latter, though crossbows and air rifles are completely legal for people who are barred from owning firearms to obtain and use which sort of invalidates that too.
Not to mention that under US law black powder guns are not legally considered firearms.
While that's technically a loophole, it's left in place to allow poor people in rural areas to supplement their food budget with hunting even if they have a felony conviction.
Also black powder guns or ANY gun made before 1898.
That switch is a federal offense unless you have a Class III SOT and have paid the prerequisite taxes. He explains it at 2:00.
Any competent person with $50 and access to a hardware store can build functional firearms. This didn't start with 3D printers.
It is 100% legal in the US to build ones own firearms for personal use. Only a few states have put any additional requirements around it.
Building new full auto guns is already illegal without the proper federal licensure. It was already possible for motivated bad actors to ignore this law if they want, even before 3D printing became a moral panic.
There is already zero point to gun control. Can't stop the signal.
Why 30 years from now?
That seemed random, and it kinda was: uneducated(!) guess on how long it will take the technology to both develop and popularize to the point the average kindergarten massacre* is committed with a 3D printed gun.
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Is 30 years long enough for there to be a decent likelihood we’ll be able to print the switch and firearm from that video? Thanks for your responses, I can tell you know your stuff.
to be clear, being forever upset about Sandy Hook has no bearing on my respect for responsible gun owners, presumably the vast majority
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Good.
Tough titty
A private company restricting what videos I can see is AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION when those videos involve GUNS! SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED! NO REGULATIONS!
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I woke up this morning thinking "I wonder what the 3D printing gun community thinks about stuff.", and I'm going to bed not giving a shit. Fuck these psychos.
Guys missing the corpo bottom line.
Gun manufacturers have gotten sued by families of school shooting victims. Youtube runs the risk of getting dragged into court because little Billy sees the 3D printed pink glock, decides that he can make that, that its time to fuck up some bullies, and then after that those bullies parents shoot lawyers in every direction (which includes Youtube, even if the odds of getting anything are minimal) like mushroom spores. That risk assessment doesn't exist for Ukraine war vids.
I suspect this is exactly right.
More generally "gun control" is never about controlling the cops, military, MIC, etc. There's bi-partisan support for the state maintaining its monopoly on violence.
Of course the state wants to maintain its monopoly on violence. That's what states do.
as if this is a bad thing.
oh, sorry, were you still dreaming of starting a civil war with you widdle rifles against, I DUNNO, ARMOR DIVISIONS AND AIR FORCES AND CHEMICAL BIOLOGICAL AND NUCLEAR WEAPONS?
because that seems pitifully stupid.
Yeah billy should be build IEDs not 3d printed guns. That'll make kids safer. /s
Honestly, why can't we put half the effort we do censoring the world into teaching kids/people the sanctity of human life. There was a time where the US was had strong pacifist culture but almost every house had gun, but I think we didn't do a good job transitioning from religious to secular values in that way.
I see the /s but...The Ukraine war videos don't show how to build IEDs, though. And even if they did, who would the parents sue? Ukraine, a nation at war? As opposed to 3D printed guns show you how to make them, and you could try to sue the gun company who it belongs to. And YouTube in both cases.
A lot of religions were founded on and/or expanded by violence (Pilgrims to America, Knights Templar, Spanish Inquisition, etc), so I don't remotely think "religious to secular" is the reason.
lol what the fuck?
Inter uterine devices are implanted birth control you fucking moron.
You probably meant IED, Improvised Explosive Device, but are too simple to understand acronyms have meanings.
if you put half your effort into reading and comprehension you'd probably engage all four brain cells.
Frankly in such a situation not such instructions, and not even Billy's parents should be held primarily responsible, but bullies' parents.
Would reduce the amount of such cases quite a lot, not even talking about more healthy childhood for every human useful for civilization (bullies usually grow into pretty average types).
so if someone murdered you, by your logic they should get off if they say you were bullying them, thereby transferring the blame to your parents?
Y'all need to stop huffing gasoline.