Photoshop Terms of Service grants Adobe access to user projects for ‘content moderation’ and other purposes
Photoshop Terms of Service grants Adobe access to user projects for ‘content moderation’ and other purposes
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Wait, is this just projects stored in your online Adobe cloud account, or are they even stealing your content if you're just using their desktop software? Because one of these is way, way worse than the other, even if neither is exactly good...
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The new AI features require internet, and they are running on their servers, so it should affect those as well. They have a
"generative fill""neural filters" which adds features to your image, so they definitely needs your full image to generate something.In cracked photoshop these tools are not working, obviously. So i guess if you use these cloud tools than you send your images directly to adobe hq.
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Now that can be an issue for some people (I mean secret contracts and stuff like that). I
don't use an image editor but if I did, I'duse Krita btw-
Krita, Inkspace, Gimp. I understand those who use it professionally but not the zealots who dont/barely use it yet demand for it like their life depended on it.
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If you're using it professionally, you need your Photoshop to be properly licensed.
If you're not using it professionally, there's no need for proper licenses. And thus you can...acquire Photoshop in a way that doesn't involve it calling back to Adobe's systems.
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I've finally started learning to use krita, I'm enjoying it a lot (begrudgingly)
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Thankfully I don't do anything that requires me to have Photoshop, but if I did, I'd be explicitly blocking all outbound connections in the firewall.
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Pretty sure the way Adobe’s licensing works you need to be always online to use it
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Then you would violate the agreement, which could terminate the access to your stuff and the app.
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I doubt that for two reasons:
- There's no non-admin way for an app to discern if it's a firewall block, or a legitimate no-internet situation (i.e. didn't purchase in-flight WiFi). It would also look really bad PR-wise if a company banned customers just because their internet went down or was otherwise spotty.
- How would they even know? Their software can't tattle on me if it's been blocked from establishing a connection.
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Could you recommend a tutorial to help me do that?
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Search: block app from internet [my operating system]
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Nobody does anything that requires them to use Photoshop. Use GIMP.
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There are plenty of people who need a better editor than GIMP considering how long it's gone without a major refresh (this isn't a whinge it's been over a decade). For anyone that actually cares about their sanity there's Krita, that actually tries to build a program for professionals.
Edit: Let alone Krita can actually be used by schools, while GIMP isn't because of the name.
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I can't bring myself to feel sorry for Adobe users, which unfortunately include my wife. Same goes for any of the other shit services out there. It takes determination and self-control to move away from all that crap, but as a person that sees himself with less self-determination than most, I was able to pull it off, so those that don't can enjoy their hostage position.
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This is a silly take. Who would sacrifice half -or more- their work efficiency to make a point?
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I would, and do. I have had to sacrifice some convenience to stand my ground and my values, but that's up to each individual how far they are willing to go.
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I mean I disagree about not sympathizing with folks somewhat trapped in a hostile software ecosystem, but surely "stand by your beliefs" is not unheard of.
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I feel the same way with Adobe and Apple.
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krita is pretty good. Not as good as photoshop, but it's 85% there and doesn't do bullshit adobe things. There's an addon for it that brings photoshop like ai tools using stable diffusion, and runs entirely locally.
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I think they've already been doing this for awhile? They must be about to get caught or something. They want to use, and probably already are, your new ideas for training AI.
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I know historically if you scanned a bank note into Photoshop it'd give you a popup window telling you off lol
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This has been a legal requirement by the government for a while, in order to combat counterfeit money. Many tools that work with images will complain about banknotes, even printers.
Also it’s not AI based and isn’t sending your image to a server. It’s checking for certain specific anti-counterfeit details of banknotes.
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now it says its new
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I think they're having you agree to what they've already been doing.
Photoshop’s newest terms of service has users agree to allow Adobe access to their active projects for the purposes of “content moderation” and other various reasons.
They want you to give up the goods to train AI, old art is bad art to them. Also, this:
This has caused concern among professionals, as it means Adobe would have access to projects under NDA such as logos for unannounced games or other media projects. Sam Santala, the founder of Songhorn Studios noted the language of the terms on Twitter, calling out the company’s overreach.
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This is why I don't use Adobe.
I'm so glad I saw the red flags from earlier and decided to stay far away from anything Adobe.
Anyways, this is the new business tactic. Start stealing confidential information by somehow forcing a new ToS change or update.
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Confidential projects, etc. amirite?
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https://w14.monkrus.ws/ oops my cat started walking on my keyboard sorry guys, i hope the link that came out doesn't contain any unlicensed adobe software
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Is that trustworthy? I don't really want to go from Adobe spying to a random russian hacker spying on me.
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i've been using releases from there for years and i've never had any problems, you can find people saying the same thing on sites like reddit
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If you keep using these tools then you get what you deserve
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Happy cake day!
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Like... do they just not want money from the main group of digital artists who generate money? It's literally a meme that the best way to make money as an artist is furry porn
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they probably dont care, they make more money selling or lending the users data.
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Its ok Adobe, you can admit you want to look at peoples furry porn, we won't judge you here!
Hell, you can just ask half of lemmy for some, I'm sure they'd be happy to share.
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Back to try learning darktable again then...
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Can you encrypt before uploading to adobe cloud?
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Nope
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No, but you can disable Adobe Acrobat Document Cloud services.
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Ahahahahahahahahahaha damn I'm so happy I retreated back to GIMP and Paint.NET.
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Will this apply to CS6 users as well?
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Why would Adobe do literally anything about CS6 in the year 2024 when they discontinued in 2013?
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What you mean by Maybe?
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You are right, its most likely to train the AI. Sorry, I deleted my dumb comment before I saw your reply, in which case I would not have deleted it.
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Why does adobe have to remind us that they suck constantly?
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Ok
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If you're hosting projects in Adobe's cloud than they can and should do that.
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So what, "intellectual property for the megacorps, not for the end users"? Tfu. I spit on that opinion. If you're gonna slob robber baron low quarters, at least wipe the polish off your lips before you come talk to us
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Yeah, otherwise those "projects" can and will include child porn.
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Imagine you are in an environment using Windows (with Recall enabled and all other spyware and advertisements on OS level), use Photoshop enabling Adobe to spy on you and play Valorant with an Anticheat system that runs all the time at highest Kernel level access to everything on your system, and use Chrome spying on you too.
I almost vomit...
Wouldn't it be nice to set 'em all up to want something (perhaps the glowing suitcase (soul?) from Pulp Fiction) and watch the greedy bastards fight, fight, fight...?