Sanders: Protests ‘may be Biden’s Vietnam’
Sanders: Protests ‘may be Biden’s Vietnam’
www.thehill.com
Sanders: Protests ‘may be Biden’s Vietnam’
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To be clear, according to the article, Sanders is not saying the protests may be biden's Vietnam, Sanders is saying that other people are saying these protests might be biden's Vietnam, which is absurdly hyperbolic and incorrect.
Bernie is a hundred percent the best and no this is not like Vietnam and it won't have the same generational impact.
These protests are important, but write about them accurately. Lazy reporting and inaccuracies don't help anybody.
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It's an apt comparison. A good majority of young people want the destruction of Gaza to stop but the president won't have it. If young people don't go to vote for Biden in November, this will be the reason. This effect becomes stronger and stronger the longer this goes on. It absolutely can define the generation that is now growing up into politics
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It absolutely can define the generation that is now growing up into politics
If Biden doesn't win, there won't be politics to grow up into. You go the way Dear Leader Trump (assuming you even have the option because you are white) or you go to prison to be slave. This is not an exaggeration.
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No, this is the same as the all those hack writers saying that the Oct. 7th attack on Israel is the same as 9/11.
It's a lazy comparison that is obviously incorrect with any amount of scrutiny or historical context.
Yes, there is a single near-parallel in that "a military conflict is happening", but that is where the similarities end.
If the argument is that any country ever in a war is like any other country ever connected to a war, it doesn't seem like a very worthwhile thing to post.
Dissimilarities:
- There is no direct American involvement in the war, only the perpetuation of military aid to a 75-year-old Ally.
- Almost zero Americans are dying, while nearly 300000 US soldiers lost their lives in Vietnam.
- The US got its ass kicked in Vietnam, whereas obviously Palestine has no comparable military retaliatory ability against Israel.
- Again, the US is not directly involved in this war. This is not going to generationally affect the US in the way that a generation of wounded and a traumatized US soldiers actually did affect US society following Vietnam. Up until a few months ago, US awareness of this 75-year-old conflict was basically nil outside of sitcom references.
- American tiktokers are trying to make this about themselves and so they're comparing it to one of yhe only wars they have heard of, the Vietnam War, which is absurd and misguing it.
- This probably should have been number one, but the Vietnam War occurred directly because of a lie lie told by the military to Congress to trick the US government into going to war. The current war is occurring because Palestine attacked Israel with an act of terrorism for the nth number of times Palestine and Israel have attacked each other with acts of terrorism.
The 75 year Palestinian genocide by Israel is not at all like the US invasion of Vietnam, and it's insulting to Vietnam, the veterans then and the Palestinians now to pretend this issue is all about the US.
This "war", or concluding genocidal chapter, will be culturally relevant in Palestine and Israel. It will generationally define Palestine and Israel.
I hope it influences US foreign policy, but it isn't anything like Vietnam and to suggest so is incorrect and insulting.
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The system is not interested in accuracy. It’s only interested in perpetuating itself.
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Bernie on this issue about 30 minutes ago:
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‘May be’?!!
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Okay so then you're just s complete shill and/ or troll. It's far closer than it has any right of being, but he absolutely can win.
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Like just stop sending weapons dude. Its the easiest thing in the world. Fuck the PACs.
"What are you plebs going to do? Vote for trump? Fall in line!"
Garbage take
Why do people think this is a good idea? Gaza isn't large. It can be leveled with traditional artillery fire (and it has domestic manufacturing of artillery shells). Force Israel to abandon precision munitions and Rafa will look like Bahkmut.
The effect of your "precision" munitions.
They’re using precision munitions on aid trucks
inb4 but Trump is Worse™ amirite?
Like, if you are coming here to make that argument, hasn't gotten through your skull that your capitulation and acceptance of genocide isnt other peoples decision? You supporting Biden in-spite of him being a piece of shit isn't an argument for Biden. Biden simply needs to do better and you should be putting pressure on him to do so instead of apologizing.
Trump is worse and Biden is a piece of shit. Both the candidates are genocidal assholes - in this election if we don't vote for less genocide we'll seriously erode our ability to vote again in the future.
We're allowed to voice our displeasure while acknowledging that yes, Trump will be way worse for you, me, and Palestine.
Unfortunately, Project 2025 being a thing means Biden needs to win. Trump winning means no second chances as the GoP WILL instate a dictatorship that wears democracy's pelt as a disguise
Honestly, best case scenario would be Biden dying like the day after being sworn in again. Because he is awful. But Trump is way worse
This isn't about that. And no, Biden shouldn't think he is safe just because the other guy is shrouded in shit. We can still go after him for his unwavering support for the Israel genocide even if he wins the election. The point is, we should not be doing this. It is obvious what the shipments are being used for and its a war crime. There for, any deals we had are nullified and void. They should not be getting these weapons or any support from the US. The point is it isn't hard to be "the good guy" so long as you aren't staring down the bags of holding that are the pockets of PACs. The point is, the corruption everywhere is plane and open for everyone to see. What are we going to do about it? Elect a more corrupt leader? No! We need to tear down lobbying and money being speech. We need to get angry and gather at their properties. We need to show them we know, and that after we're done dunking on fucken Trump we're coming for them.