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Bill to allow arming Tennessee teachers with guns heads to the governor's desk

www.newschannel5.com

A bill that would allow some Tennessee teachers to carry a gun at school is heading to Gov. Bill Lee's desk.

HB 1202/SB 1325 has drawn heavy attention from parents, teachers, students and law enforcement. The bill would allow specially-trained teachers to carry handguns in their classrooms. Under the bill, parents would not know whether their child's teacher was armed or not.

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And the countdown to either a teacher losing it and shooting at students or a student getting a hold of a teacher's gun and going on a rampage begins...
- I think a will happen first.
I guess the parental rights crowd doesn't give a shit about this one huh?
- Shocking isn’t it?
The kids should be allowed to open-carry as well. Also, the lunch servers and janitors.
Only fair.
- In the old days kids were allowed to bring guns to school, some schools had shooting ranges even.
  Not so long ago when I was in school we were allowed to have guns in our cars on school property. We'd go out to our cars at lunch and inspect each other's wares, then after school we'd go to state or private land and shoot them.
  The problem isn't guns, its the current generation of moronic maladjusted people, that our public institutions are shitting out, that can't handle having rights and freedoms responsibly.
  
  I'm having trouble understanding how this is the "public institution's" fault. Which public institutions?
  
  Ohh yeah those good old days. Damn man i wish they would bring them back with all the raping, murderibg and thieving that was way worse. /s
  You can stick you anecdotal evidence where the light light never shines grandpa.
This will finally solve the problem. Just like arming all those cops in Uvalde.
"Billy, put your phone away. Last warning. If I see it again, I'm using it for target practice."
Their heads are made of guns?!?
You americans and your god damn guns. Maybe fix your social inequalities and health care.
Then again, giving guns or taking guns away, both are really more easy than real solutions.
Sign in thumbnail: girls clothing in schools is more regulated then guns
The right to bear arms is a constitutionally-guaranteed right; the founders considered it intrinsic to maintaining the system of government.
Clothing isn't directly, though going from memory, there is some case law on clothing in schools and interaction with the First Amendment.
googles
Yeah. Actually got some bounds on both sides.
https://legal-info.lawyers.com/research/education-law/when-does-the-first-amendment-protect-what-students-wear-to-school.html
Arguments about school dress codes are nothing new. Specific disputes may change with fashion and the political controversies of the day—from old battles over boys’ hair length to more recent controversies over blue hair and the way transgender kids dress. But one basic question remains: Do students have the right under the First Amendment to express their opinions or identity through what they wear to public school?
Courts have set out some guidelines for deciding the answer to that question in different situations. The rules are different when schools:
punish students for wearing clothes (usually T-shirts) that communicate a viewpoint with words, pictures, or symbols, or
require all students to wear uniforms or impose general bans on types of clothes, jewelry, or hairstyles (known as “content-neutral” restrictions).
When Clothes Speak Loud and Clear
Public schools must respect students’ constitutional right to freedom of expression—which extends to the messages students wear on their T-shirts and other clothes. But the U.S. Supreme Court has allowed certain limits on free speech in the school setting. Schools can punish students for wearing clothing with words, images, or symbols that:
are vulgar or lewd (Bethel School Dist. No. 403 v. Fraser, 478 U.S. 675 (1986)),
promote illegal drug use (Morse v. Frederick, 551 U.S. 393 (2007)), or
are likely to cause serious disruption at school or violate other students’ rights (Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School Dist., 393 U.S. 503 (1969)).
Students often display opinions on their T-shirts that make some of their teachers and classmates uncomfortable or even angry. That reaction isn’t enough to meet the Tinker standard. For example, courts have found that schools couldn’t bar students from wearing:
black armbands as an antiwar protest (Tinker)
buttons protesting the use of “scabs” during a teachers’ strike (Chandler v. McMinnville School Dist., 978 F.2d 524 (9th Cir. 1992)
a T-shirt with a picture of the U.S. president and the words “International Terrorist” (Barber v. Dearborn Public Schools, 286 F.Supp.2d 847 (E.D. Mich. 2003)), or
a T-shirt supporting the National Rifle Association with an image of guns (Newsom v. Albemarle County School Bd., 354 F.3d 249 (4th Cir. 2003).
- The right to bear arms is a constitutionally-guaranteed right; the founders considered it intrinsic to maintaining the system of government.
  Yes, for the purposes of maintaining a well regulated militia.
  It's a shame the Founding Fathers apparently didn't forsee a future when people would interpret that plain language to include teachers instructing children in a fucking classroom.
- You seem to have specifically missed where it said GIRLS clothing. Girls’ clothing of very heavily regulated, with rules about skirt length, shoulder strap width, and shorts they can wear, with that excuse given that ours to stop them from distracting boys by having bodies. Girls can be sent home if a bra strap shows.
- What's the relevance of that? Aren't there many places in the US where you aren't allowed to carry a weapon? (Genuine question, I don't live in the US but I assume that would be the case)
  
  Schools, for one. Also most stats allow private properties to ban firearms onsite. Most states restrict weapons in the government building and courts/such like.
  
  Schools are one of the places where weapons of any type are prohibited. The only people allowed to have a weapon in schools, usually, are police and military personnel. Doesn't mean they don't enter the school but you can get in trouble if your caught.
  In my school the Military exception included students who were part of the JROTC drill or rifle teams and currently engaged in an activity associated with that team while in uniform. Drill team could carry their M1s to, during and from drill practice for example.
  JROTC stands for Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps. Basically it's a down sized military academy operated within a normal school, sort of. Mostly you learn survival and field medical skills.
  
  It varies state to state. In some states you need to have a license to carry at all, some require a permit for concealed carry, some allow for businesses to ban firearms(some states it is just a polite request sign with no legal force), some ban carry in parks(national parks or otherwise.).
  Nationwide there are certain locations where guns are prohibited like courthouses, government buildings, post offices, political events, etc.
  So in most states you can have a permit to carry and have no problems carrying concealed anywhere except the federally prohibited locations. In some states you can carry concealed but must disarm before you go into a business or location with a certain sign. A few states, even with a permit, you can't use public transit or take a shortcut through a park or go to most businesses if you are in the wrong part of the state. In a couple states you can't carry a firearm except one that is unloaded and in a case directly between your house and the place that you are lawfully allowed to use it. You can have a magazine that holds more rounds than a certain number of round or a type of firearm legally under state law and then unknowingly enter a city or county that you are not allowed to have that and potentially face legal consequences without the intent to break a law just because a road passes through the boarder of that jurisdiction.
  You really have to consider the USA to be 50 different countries, more like the EU, than having consistent laws. You can be totally fine having a loaded AR-15 on you back and cross a legal line and commit a serious crime once you walk a foot into a different jurisdiction.

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