Microsoft wants to hide the 'Sign out' button in Windows 11 behind a Microsoft 365 ad
Microsoft wants to hide the 'Sign out' button in Windows 11 behind a Microsoft 365 ad
Every generation has this moment, where they learn to hate Microsoft (or Micro$oft). Then, 4% install Linux, 6% buy a Mac with half the RAM for twice the price; and everyone else to keeps complaining.
I feel like you're describing Windows here lol
That was the status quo when I tried Linux ~5 years ago. Nowadays, Linux is much more plug and play (and I'm specifically referring to Pop OS).
Desktop Linux requires buying a USB / DVD, inserting it into your machine, and hitting OK several times. If you can't do that, you also can't install Windows.
Linux and Nvidia really need to sort out their shit so I can fully dump windows.
Luckily the AI hype is good for something in this regard, since I running gpus on Linux servers is suddenly much more important.
The only thing keeping me on windows is the Nvidia GPU in my laptop. If Linux got actual dynamic GPU switching support I would delete windows and never look back.
how long is having a GPU you can't use without an OS going to he worth staying off Linux?
The only reason I have windows is to play games and not all games will work on linux
since running gpus on Linux servers is suddenly much more important.
It's always been important. Nvidia will never have actual open source drivers. They do this thing where they intentionally hobble your GPU unless you pay them even more money for a more expensive GPU.
As much as I like Linux, and use it almost exclusively on desktop/laptop, every time I see something like this I am reminded how much I hate the fact that Apple of all companies is about the last bastion of commercial and consumer operating systems who isn’t trying to derive the bulk of their revenue from advertising.
Yes they just derive it by keeping the Windows/MacOS duopoly in place and monopolizing communication channels.
In some sense yes, but advertising for its own stuff is advertising too. It nudges you to use their whole ecosystem.
The most annoying thing for me is that you can't remove the iTunes component in mission control (the settings deck).
It does nudge you...but it's not full screen ads that take multiple clicks to get through every week. I was a Windows zealot through W7...W10 got bad...W11 got me to start using Apple and Linux.
There has to be a point of diminishing returns for them with this kind of behavior. This is just so aggravating.
I'd wager they are hoping to entrap as many people as they can on the platform, with their TPM restrictions, and store restrictions, and account restrictions, that sunk cost fallacy will keep the overwhelming bulk of people stuck in their web.
I'd also wager that enterprise probably doesnt have any of this bullshit
This is what happens when they know you won't leave.
"But muh games...and Linux is too difficult and weird"
I say to those: well then you've made your choice, didn't you? It's going to keep happening, like it's been since the 90s.
Why is the target of your comment towards people that use Windows?
I am not sure why People on Lemmy feel like if they point something out to people who can't see the comment is going to get them to change their mind.
I have and use both Linux and Windows. I prefer both for different reasons.
I know I'm talking into the void. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. I'm too tired of trying to do that. Just trying to get people to realize they made the choices they have to live with.
Another day, another piece of enshittification by MS, another reason to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds, if you can spare a few minutes.
I don't see any enshitiffication features and ads in Windows 11 that Lemmy and tech news are reporting. I wonder if it's because I'm in the EU.
New features get released into the developer preview. It's basically beta test windows. It's what the tech sites watch to see what new features/etc have been added/removed/changed. Usually they end up making it into the release builds, but sometimes they end up not doing it, or the change doesn't apply to certain regions.
What I love the most about Windows is just how easy it is to find all the user settings I need to change. And I super appreciate how they configure things that work so perfect for me. It's like I never need to make decisions of my own, they can read my mind. /S
theyre turning the deskop into a mobile platform which is inherently difficult to mod. this is so they can provide it as a service to any device.
I want my power button to cut off the power instantly. I want my log off button to be instant. Add any delay and I start pulling cables!!!!!!!!!
I got to go, lock this computer, so I can do a thing! Oh shit, its not locking... fuck... Security says I can't leave a unlocked console.... POWER!
Adding needless friction is terrible! Don't do it.
Is that bad for the computer? Because I didn't even think about this in a corporate environment until your comment. All our employees would be pulling cords or batteries, they all march out at exactly 430.
any unwritten data would be lost, perhaps some file system updates get out of sync, but it shouldn't be a big problem.
Autodesk! All the others! Can you now, goddammit, for the sake of the mental health of your customers, start building your tools on platforms other than this crap? PLEASE? I mean I'm seriously considering building a parallel system running Linux for all my other office needs and just touch my Win-pc to run my CAD. I hope MS will continue in this way and ai-mercialize their OS more and more so hopefully the software providers will have enough at one point.
At that point you might as well just use a windows VM for CAD. With desktop integration you hardly have to notice you're using windows.
Microsoft got to much time on their hands. Can they please work on the more important stuff like completing the transition from controlpanel to settings?
If anything, they need to revert back to control panel.
I tried building a Steam box with the bootleg version of SteamOS from the deck... Can't remember the name of the distro. Steam Games ran great for the most part, but getting Epic, EA and Ubisoft to work was a nightmare. If Linux can get that sorted, I'd never use Windows again.
In total, I expect this to cost about a minute or two of my life if they never remove the ads. This figure is fairly typical for daily windows users, of which ~400kk are on win11. Microsoft will steal ~1.5*400,000,000 minutes with these ads. Ads that nearly no one will even consider clicking. 600,000,000 minutes=10,000,000 hours=1140 years. Multiple lifetimes in aggregate, all to be thrown away for nothing. I’d like to send a very strongly worded knot tying tutorial to Satya Nadella and Brad Smith.
At this point I'm convinced that the new windows feature announcements are just ads for linux
*Ads for MacOS/chromeos
Jesus Fucking Christ. They really want people to switch to Linux, don't they?
Microsoft should stop trying to become another Apple. This is not going to work.
as soon as they require a microsoft account to use versions of windows, they are apple... minus the mobile, but plus a metric shittone of things apple doesnt.
not that any of that is good, microsoft should die in a fire.. but theyve spent 20 years building an OS-as-a-service platform and its coming to fruition. they might be slow, but rest assured they will get their captured, vertically integrated audience.
All that AI can't pay for itself, I guess.
This sound like something they would totally do.
When will VR be a thing in Linux?
WTF happened to Microsoft? What a fall. Is this a leadership thing?
They were always about screwing over consumers to make money. The only thing that changed is that they've become increasingly unsubtle about it.
I've held off on saying it until now (I haven't), but now I'm going to call it (again):
This is the year of the Linux Desktop.
(It feels love someone influential at Microsoft is trying to protect my reputation and force my prediction to come true.)
People pay for this?
Usually they just over-pay for their computer because you can't really buy a system without Windows pre-installed (unless you build it).
I have so many computers that came with Windows installations that I never even booted into.
"Can't really buy a computer without Windows pre-installed"? Weird, that's not my experience. The stores allow filtering by "no OS" and you can see quite a lot of options.
Great to know. Not that I ever fucking use that menu, opting to use the sleep button on my keyboard instead.
Anyone who can should switch to Linux. Most of us can, I have done so on my laptop. I have tried gaming on Linux too and it's fucking fantastic though I personally had an edge case issue that barely anyone will ever meet and had to go back. Do not let that discourage you from trying, however. Cyberpunk, as an example, was wonderful on Linux. No issues. As soon as my issues are sorted, something that will happen sooner or later, I will switch that pc in an instant!
Windows key + L
Try and put an as on my keyboard ya stupid fucks
Win+D, Alt-F4.
Is there something like PowerToys Run for KDE? That's one of the utilities I would miss the most when switching to Linux.
What is Window 365? Is it a cloud based OS? If Yes, then all High End Machine will become useless?
its 'msoffice as a service'... and it sucks donkey balls. imagine tryin to manipulate a giant dataset in a web version of excel in a browser tab. annoying enough in the binary, impossible in 'office365-excel'
With how aggressive Microsoft is becoming with ads, services, and data collection they could at least make Windows itself free.
But no, you still have to pay £100+ per license to have the pleasure of putting up with this crap.
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Piracy is not a real solution to the problem. Microsoft allows these sorts of things to exist in the background because they would rather lose out on some sales than lose market share.