Taiwan reports second large-scale China air force incursion this week

Yeah, obviously it's a glorified puppet state but there's no point in arguing from that standpoint here. If a country is to exist, it should know about local air traffic, that's all I'm saying.

Cool, so lets ask the people living there (not those in power) what they want with their country.

... oh.

That's exactly what type of traffic these articles are alerting. Which is why there's no need to even pay attention to it.

Also Thailand has had Chinese military visit it's country as well as trained with Chinese soldiers. If you know so little, why comment?

I'm so tired of the notion that anyone not being in line with certain narratives is automatically considered a drone.

So Chinese bots are on lemmy too now.

Amazing how comfortable you are being racist on a public forum.

Anyway, people should look at this map and take note of how far Taiwan's ADIZ extends into Fujian province of mainland China and the open ocean (which is the southwest corner the PRC's airplanes were supposedly encroaching on). These articles are obviously published to make China seem more aggressive than it really is. Meanwhile the US, with the most powerful navy in the world, parades its warships through the Taiwan strait, which for some reason is not seen as a threat or provocation. Also Taiwan claims the mainland as its own territory. Oh, poor little Taiwan. Lol, get off it.

You both quoted the same exact piece of text. You said they didn't read the article but you didn't even bother to read their comment?

You are calling a human being a bot, literally dehumanizing them, because they don't have the same hatred of China as you. You should really check yourself. You are full of hatred and ideological poison. It is clear from your comment that you have limited literacy skills and understanding, you should check out some other perspectives and try to broaden your horizons. Here is one. This is also another incredible resource with a lot of essays and information with a different perspective

Everyone who disagrees with me must be a bot.

I bet your response will contain one of more of the following: Winnie the Pooh, social credit, comrade, Uyghurs. Yet you call others bots, lmao.

Bro the amerikkkan navy sails it's boats there. Silence, drone.

lemmy.ca

of fucking course lol, ugh

So Chinese bots are on lemmy too now

RandAlThor, more like AynRandAlThor

First day? Lemmygrad brigades every worldnews thread about China or Russia.

It's still international airspace, so it's a moot point.

withdrawing support for Taiwan in the still-distant future.

They're going to tip the Republic of China in to the ocean as soon as they've stolen all of TSCM's productive capacity. That's all this was ever about. They're building chip fabs in Arizona right now. As soon as the US can produce it's own Chips the RoC is... going to go right back to tense but peaceful relations with the mainland like they had before DC started waving it's grand imperial [redacted] around.

394 from the perspective of Hexbear. The pre-emptive lemmy.world defederation with Hexbear effectively splits big threads like this into two sections. At the top is the much higher activity Hexbear posting, and at the bottom is the lower activity lemmy.world posting where instead of substantive discussion, people who are in support of China just get downvoted to oblivion.

Ironically, Hexbear's total removal of downvotes on their end confers an advantage here. Discussions and dunkings involving a lot of Hexbear users tend to rise to the top of threads sorted by hot because the lack of downvotes promotes actual discussion upon disagreement. This results in higher activity levels than those produced by the passive downvoting behavior typical of more reddit-like instances.

That literally only happened because the USSR and China would not and could not vote on it (respectively) because the UN was insisting that the KMT who only controlled taiwan were the legitimate representatives of china, and the USSR was boycotting the UN votes on principle.

The point isn't "UN is infallible" the point is "Even anti-communist countries in the UN agreed that PRC is the legitimate government of all of China."

Claiming a territory against the will of its people is exactly what imperialism is

In case you're interested in learning more about imperialism from a Marxist perspective, I'd recommend Lenin's Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism. You don't have to agree with it, but I don't believe you can have a complete understanding of the way Global South countries have been exploited and subjugated in the last century or so without being aware of the arguments made in this book. The fact that so many of the post WW2 anti-colonial liberation movements were ML or MLM should tell you something.

Also, China doesn't have to claim anything. Elsewhere in this thread people have already pointed out that under International Law Chinese Taipei is already part of China. No country in the world recognizes the ROC or Taiwan as an independent country. To the extent that the populace of the island has a position on this, it's split between wanting to retain a special status within China or separatism. And let's be real here, no country in the world is down with separatist movements. Ask the Kurds, or the Basques, or the Catalonians, or the Chechens etc etc. Hell, let Texas try and secede and see what happens. Realistically, only once Capitalism and Nationalism are both dead and forgotten can humanity start to move away from this geopolitical reality.

Claiming a territory against the will of its people is exactly what imperialism is.

It is nothing less than colonisation.

You mean like when the KMT fled to Taiwan, brutalized the natives, and colonized it, imposing four decades of martial law?

Learn what imperialism is FFS. Throwing around words you don’t know the meaning of serves no purpose but to make you appear foolish

As a french dude...

Opinion rejected

You continue your shit hole's history of imperialism by dictating what is right and wrong for a colored mans nation to do in a faraway geopolitical situation you are largely uninformed about. And the fucking gall of using the bloody history of your barbaric country's colonial exploits as a way to give such pontifications some form of authority. Lmao shut the fuck up and sit down you arrogant bastard.

Last I checked liberals are all about respecting rules and international law, so we're just holding you to your own standards here.

So...you thought sharing a common language precluded having differing opinions? That's kinda astonishing, ngl

Hexbear has never felt so united

blame lemmy's terrible Active algo. It's a struggle session factory

in what world would anyone side with the US over china and russia

The US is really only providing enough support to stall Russia and use up Ukrainian and Russian forces

The real question is the commitment of US allies that have already provided materiel support for Ukraine.

If it were WW3, the nukes would be flying and everyone in the northern hemisphere will be dead from famine in a year or two.

I assume NATO would officially swoop in and bomb the everliving fuck out of Russia's fleet and fortified positions before diverting their attention elsewhere. Basically giving Ukraine a much easier path forward.

Go cry more, nationalist

we need a victims of capitalism death toll that counts people who weren't born in the total.

China is fascist now, they can go on calling themselves communist in a vain attempt to have something resembling legitimacy. But any fool knows that when the ruling party is full of billionaires, that's no communist system.

They Chinese people are a great people and deserve a better government than the fascist regime lead by Winnie Xi Pooh.

ATTENTION

Your account has been flagged for CCP tankie shill-like activity. Please review These Nuts and never forget that Mao killed more people than Stalin and Hitler combined!

Only the US can do that, tankie

Oh, yes. Actual leftists that somehow support every action of a particular nation. Actual leftists who don't mind government control of information and gives incentives for supporting them publicly. Actual leftists that are ok with some people being removed from society because of the groups they belong to. Yep, totally sounds like actual leftists to me...

China is not leftist

They're laughable. I've gotten like 30 replies to 1 comment and then they say "You seem mad" Yes....I'm the mad one. 🙄

They are watching, to think otherwise is foolish

Expressing how you feel about China is fine. Calling someone else a "paranoid weirdo" is not. That's just plain rude and disrespectful.

Edit: I feel like I should make it extra clear that I am not defending myself because several people think that I'm whining for myself. The one called a "paranoid weirdo" was not me.

Well, I must admit that things are starting to get interesting in the comments section.

Possibly, I didn't look where they're all from, nor do I know what hexbear is or why it's significant. Sounds like some kind of intra-Lemmy drama which I'm not too interested in. Just noticed a fair amount, lets say........not totally organic, seemingly agenda pushing comments.

Edit: Forget my previous comment. I now see the problem with Hexbear.

There's a good number coming from Lemmygrad as well.