Justice Department finalizes rules to close ‘gun show loophole’ | The change was touted by the White House as the biggest increase in gun regulation in decades

Amazing! I can't believe after all this time someone finally passed this common sense legislation.

The legislation that directed these rules to be written was actually passed by Congress a few years ago.
It takes quite some time for new federal regulations to be written and enacted, with lengthy public comment periods.
- That's a bit disingenuous. The actual legislation doesn't mention this issue at all, and one of the co-authors has even come out and said that the ATF's reliance on that law is perversion of the intent of the legislation.
  Anything involving a constitutional right should have significantly more say by elected officials and significantly less say by agency bureaucrats.
This is election year performative action with no direct effect on reducing gun crime.
- Actually violent crime has been dropping consistently for decades!

What is this, just nics for private party transfers?

This is insane. They are trying to backdoor outlaw private sales without going through Congress. This should be challenged and thrown out.

You can still make the occasional private sale of your used firearm. What you can't do is make a business out of it.

There are some exceptions, including for hobbyists who are selling firearms from their collection and people who sell firearms they inherited.

This makes the law toothless. People who were selling mainly for a profit just at gun shows were already in violation of the law, just that nobody did anything about it.

Now they'll just claim to be hobbyists and can continue as if nothing changed.

The only way they can make this stick is if they determine that "for profit" means you make more money than you bought it for, rather than intending to make more money that you bought it for, which would be ridiculous.

It includes a specific set of rules for making the determination.
This would mean that anybody ever selling any firearm for any reason will have to register as an FFL? How asinine would that be lol. Either used firearm costs would plummet, as everyone selling would gradually lower the cost of the gun if they resold it, or nobody would ever sell their guns, which would be wasteful and anti-free trade.

No other constitutional right is as heavily-regulated as the Second Amendment. The idea that one needs to ask permission from the government before exercising a constitutionally-protected right is anathema the entire concept of inherent rights.

And libs (I count myself as one) are constantly posting arguments as if gun ownership in not a right. It is. And the courts agree, and have historically.
Doesn't matter if one likes it or not, it's a fact.
And for my fellow libs, I have questions: Just how limited do you want this right if Trump wins again? Still want a national registry? Do you know what a Brown Shirt was?
How about the fact that women, POC and LGBT folks are the largest gun buying demographic? Are those the people you imagine when you hear "gun owner"?
I can go on about how silly and ineffective gun legislation tends to be, even if it sounds "common sense" to those who don't understand the details. But all Democrats are doing is tossing votes to the wind. If they would give up the gun grabbing, they would landslide every election.
- I just want the cops to do their fucking jobs once in a while and actually write shit up. How many times has there been a school shooting and the perp was very fucking well known to law enforcement, but still legally bought a firearm because nothing showed up on the background check?
  Gimme that and federal law that holds adults responsible for unsecured firearms that their kids get a hold of and I think I'll be content.
If you were making this argument about the right to protest no one would have a problem agreeing with you which indicates they are downvoting you because they don't want what you are saying to be true. There is nothing wrong with logic of your statement. People too often let what they want to be true color their interpretation of what actually is true.
In this case the truth is that you're absolutely correct, explicitly enumerated constitutional rights should not be infringed by anything other than a constitutional amendment. If someone is bothered by the 2nd amendment they should be advocating for an amendment to change it.
I understand that passing something like that is a practical impossibility and therefore quite frustrating for advocates of stricter gun control, but trying to bypass that process can only open the door for much more insidious restrictions. In other words, if we allow the 2nd amendment to have additional terms and conditions added to it what is stopping a second term Donald Trump presidency from using that precedent to limit free speech or the rights of a free press? We have enough to be concerned about with a second Trump presidency without giving him a clear legal path to bypassing constitutional amendments.
- It's also quite possible that many of the people downvoting me are Europeans or Canadians or something. Keep in mind that the US remains to this day somewhat of a novelty in its approach to rights. In most other democracies, rights are not considered inherent, but are rather granted to citizens by the government. In the US, rights are considered inherent, and the Bill of Rights actually limits the Government rather than grants said rights to the people.

The "gun show loophole" is the ability to own a gun without the government knowing you own a gun. In order to actually close this non-existent loophole all guns would have to be registered and registered guns are confiscated guns.

Nah. It's the ability to buy a new gun without getting a background check. All this means is that it's a little bit harder for convicted felons to get guns, and a little bit more work is required for private sellers. Very much a worthwhile tradeoff.
The government doesn't explicitly know if you have a gun or not. You know how many people I know on state medical marijuana programs who have guns and buy new guns? Laws as written that's a felony but no ones checking, there is no registry. Im pretty pro gun for the lemmy crowd but as far as I can tell the government not keeping a list.