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Hamas tells negotiators it doesn’t have 40 Israeli hostages needed for first round of ceasefire

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Hamas tells negotiators it doesn’t have 40 Israeli hostages needed for first round of ceasefire | CNN

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Hamas tells negotiators it doesn’t have 40 Israeli hostages needed for first round of ceasefire | CNN

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CNN’s record of the conditions of the hostages also suggests there are fewer than 40 living hostages who meet the proposed criteria.
With Hamas appearing to be unable to reach 40 in the proposed categories, Israel has pushed for Hamas to fill out the initial release with younger male hostages, including soldiers, the Israeli official said.
The majority of the almost 100 hostages who remain alive are believed to be male IDF soldiers or men of military reserve age. Hamas is expected to try to use to them in later phases to try to negotiate more significant concessions, including more high-level prisoners and a permanent end to the war.
I'm sorry, I'm just going to repeat the relevant part again: The majority of the almost 100 hostages who remain alive are believed to be male IDF soldiers or men of military reserve age.
The majority of the almost 100 hostages who remain alive are believed to be male IDF soldiers or men of military reserve age.
The majority of the almost 100 hostages who remain alive are believed to be male IDF soldiers or men of military reserve age.
- I feel like those shouldn't be called hostages, they're POWs
- I'm lacking context or something because I don't understand why that is so significant.
  
  It means most of the hostages aren't "civilians" as many people claim. So they're more like POWs.
  There aren't really many "civilians" in israel to begin with tbf, except children. Half the population are IDF conscripts, and most of the other half are fascist settlers and colonizers just the same. Those were the main casualties in the Oct 7 attack too.
- That's a big "or" isn't it? It was a music festival so it is no surprise there are a lot of young men.
  
  The hostages are believed to be Santa #or men of military reserve age
That tends to happen after a WW2-level mass bombing and starvation campaign, yeah. Of course, the IOF already knew that. This was never about hostages.
- Of course it never was. It was about optics positioning, glorified manipulative marketing for the normies and idealogues. To claim to not want to be bombing them back to the stone age and to drive them out.
  There was a leaked intelligence paper/memo weeks ago that essentially showed that their entire master plan was to kick them, the Palestinians out of Gaza. Hoping some other country would take them. That is why they were pushing them south too.
  
  Hannibal doctrine ain't got time for hostages
- Would sure love to see any reports of that. But i won't hold my breath since you are clearly an IDF sock puppet
  
  Joined three hours ago to share a creepy pedophilic fantasy in a news community. Blocked and banned.
Tends to happen when a military fucking carpet bombs everything.
The settler government cares more about killing the native Palestinians than they do about getting hostages back (well, more like POWs ig since most of them are IDF conscripts)
The IOF killed them in their bombings of Gaza
Um, when you carpet bomb the entire area
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The framework that has been laid out by negotiators says that during a first six-week pause in the fighting, Hamas should release 40 of the remaining hostages, including all the women as well as sick and elderly men.
Hamas has told international mediators – which include Qatar and Egypt - it does not have 40 living hostages who match those criteria for release, both sources said.
The more than 250 hostages captured or killed on October 7 are believed to have been spread out among different members and factions of Hamas, as well as other militant groups, gangs and even held by families.
The two boys and their mother were not released from Gaza during the temporary truce in late November, despite the fact that the deal agreed between Israel and Hamas required all women and children to be set free.
Hamas has claimed repeatedly that Israeli bombing has killed a number of the hostages held in Gaza and that its continuing campaign is threatening those still alive.
Israel said Hamas was carrying out “psychological torment” on the hostage families, and IDF chief spokesperson Daniel Hagari said the two men had not been hit.
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Vietnam all over again
Israel has pushed for Hamas to fill out the initial release with younger male hostages, including soldiers, the Israeli official said.
Yeah fuck women and children first right?
- Not defending Israel here, but my understanding was they did want women and children for the initial 40 released. Hamas said they don't have 40 women and children to release, so now Israel is demanding they release militarily capable hostages in order to hit the 40 number.
- Essentially.
  Women are not intrinsically more valuable than men.

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