Hamas tells negotiators it doesn’t have 40 Israeli hostages needed for first round of ceasefire | CNN
Hamas tells negotiators it doesn’t have 40 Israeli hostages needed for first round of ceasefire | CNN
You mean Israel went into negotiations making unreasonable demands? Like almost every other time?
What are the demands of each side? Can we lay them out and compare? Or do we know already that Hamas demands are reasonable? Do we always have to take sides? I personally want what's best for the Palestinian people so I want a ceasefire and return to negotiations. But this partisan flailing isn't helping the cause. Unless of course we're ok sacrificing more Palestinians? I don't get it.
Do sides have to be taken in a negotiation?
I would say yes. That's the whole point of a negotiation.
We can. Hamas has been very clear. End the blockade. Remove troops from West Bank. Recognize a Palestinian state. Allow Palestinian refugees to return. Release Palestinians being held without charge. (hostages but with a nicer veneer)
Israel wants their people back.
Those are the two positions.
Theyre dead, Jim
Okay how about 25? 24 and 3 fingers?...wrong cartel! Sinaloa guys, we'll get back to you later... At! I meant at you later. Sorry I'm new at this negotiation shit. Let's start over.
Okay, my name is...is....hmmm.... Pedro. What's your name? And you said Carlos does have the two testicles? Okay okay. Look let's not do someth....he has only one testicle not? Not his testicle. Oh man, poor kid, listen guy, I was just pooping and I picked up the phone without checking, I think you got the wrong number. Yeah I'm real sorry. I hope you find Carlo's friends, I really do.
Racism, everybody.
What is amazing is that there are some that are ever ready to quote numbers given by Hamas, when they can't even track 40 hostages.
CNN’s record of the conditions of the hostages also suggests there are fewer than 40 living hostages who meet the proposed criteria.
So...
Even the source of the article you posted is wrong?
Did you even read the article or just the headline?
There are supposed to be 136 hostages in Gaza.
They are probably still there, check hospitals, community centres, school, emergency camps... you will probably find their corpses under all the rubble from Israeli fired American and British missiles.
The criteria are for women and the elderly to be released. The majority of the remaining hostages are men of military age (as Israel has mandatory conscription, they are military personnel by definition).
FTA:
The framework that has been laid out by negotiators says that during a first six-week pause in the fighting, Hamas should release 40 of the remaining hostages, including all the women as well as sick and elderly men. In exchange, hundreds of Palestinian prisoners would be released from Israeli prisons.
Hamas has told international mediators – which include Qatar and Egypt - it does not have 40 living hostages who match those criteria for release, both sources said.
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With Hamas appearing to be unable to reach 40 in the proposed categories, Israel has pushed for Hamas to fill out the initial release with younger male hostages, including soldiers, the Israeli official said.
So can Hamas fulfill that?
So what happened to the old women and children? Sold into slavery? Dead?
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According to who?
The IDF?
Why would anyone be listening to them at this point? They lie constantly about damn near everything...
The Israeli prime minister’s office said Wednesday that of the 129 hostages from the October 7 attack currently held, 33 are dead.
So are you saying this article you posted contains misinformation? Or did you not read it?
At one point both Israel and Hamas seemed to agree that there were approximately 200 250 hostages.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/what-do-we-now-about-hamas-hostages-2023-10-19/
HOW MANY HOSTAGES ARE THERE?
An estimated 200 people, including 30 teenagers and young children and 20 people over the age of 60, are being held hostage in Gaza, Israel's public broadcaster Kan said on Thursday, citing military sources.
Hamas says it has 200 hostages and that 50 more are held by other armed groups in the enclave. It said more than 20 hostages have been killed by Israeli air strikes, but has not given any further details.
Edit: Wikipedia cites a slightly higher number
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_prisoner_exchange
In November 2023, Palestinian militants held around 250 people from Israel, including Israeli nationals and non-Israelis following their capture during the Hamas-led attack on Israel.
Edit 2: my mistake, they corroborate their numbers (250)
Article is way better than the headline...
Hamas just hasn't been taking civilian noncombatants as hostages like Israel has been doing.
Most hostages are combatants, and that doesn't meet the details for this requirement
So...
Hamas gets hostages returned that are women, children, and elderly, all noncombatants.
They get them back into Gaza where there's no food and no zones safe from Israeli attacks...
And Israeli gets back some of their boots on the ground war criminals so they can go right back to genocide?
If you were trying to be sarcastic use a "/s", otherwise people will think that was a serious comment.
Totally untrue
https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/hamas-hostages-israel-gaza-41432124
Where are Hamas getting them?
Like, do you think this is an actual war where both sides attack each other's territories?
Seriously, at what point in the last six months would Hamas have captured non combatants?
Oh, it's true alright:
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/11/israel-opt-horrifying-cases-of-torture-and-degrading-treatment-of-palestinian-detainees-amid-spike-in-arbitrary-arrests/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67600015