1y ago

Woman breaks her neck inside St. Clair County Jail, isn't taken to the hospital for days

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'They were moving me all around and I had a broken neck.'

Imagine falling and breaking your neck, but no one takes you to the hospital right away.

That’s exactly what a local woman says happened to her inside the St. Clair County Jail and now she’s trying to make sure something like this doesn’t happen to anyone else.

Lisa Brown takes full responsibility for why she ended up briefly behind bars. But now she says a 20-day jail sentence has left her with a life sentence of partial paralysis and disability.

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None of this is accidental or a failure of the system. The system works as designed.
- Correct. Im friendly with a CO who regularly gets derided for taking inmates to the infirmary when they say they're sick. The CO cultural MO seems to be everyone's faking it unless you can see blood or bone. The dudes proactivity has stopped what could have been a major flu outbreak and still they ride his ass when he brings sick inmates to the infirmary. Even the doctors working there dont like that he brings sick patients to them. It's rotten apples almost all the way down.
  
  I imagine some of the problem is compassion fatigue - lots of prisoners are antisocial assholes who refuse to abide by society's rules (or they're just fucking criminally stupid).
  It'd be tough to keep caring about that sort of group day in and day out.
  
  Got a close friend in CO training. They love him because he denies the inmates anything they ask for. Told him long before he started, they're going to change him for the worse. And it's happening.
  
  My aunt is a doctor in a prison. She hates how long it will take for some people to be seen, sometimes because the guards just don’t think it’s a problem warranting taking them to the infirmary.
  
  Even the doctors working there dont like that he brings sick patients to them. It’s rotten apples almost all the way down.
  That's mega fucked, wow. ADAB? Nah, I wouldn't go that far.
- Even if only subconsciously, this is exactly the same side of humanity that came out in the Holocaust.
  The Nazis didn’t just exterminate people in the Holocaust. They also mistreated them horribly, tortured them, played sadistic mind games with them.
  That same shit is in all of us, and it comes out if we don’t manage ourselves correctly.
  A woman who breaks her neck in jail and doesn’t get treated for three days is not just a story of incompetence. It is a story of sadism. It’s a story of evil.
  
  That same shit is in all of us
  I don't believe this is true, I don't believe I personally could ever take pleasure in another's serious pain (i.e. doesn't include laughing at my friend slipping on a banana). While many in nazi germany may have had a bit of repressed sadism, many others had to be tricked or coerced into doing banal evil things.
- We don't have a justice system. We have an incarceration industrial complex. It also doubles as a replacement for (now technically illegal) slave labor.
Hopefully she wins a lawsuit
- In a perfect world the payout fucking destroys this police force and a new one is built from the ground up.
  Realistically something as bad if not worse will happen there within a year. 50/50 whether it even makes news.
  
  The taxpayers are gonna lose millions while the cops responsible for this suffer no consequences whatsoever. And any politician trying to hold them responsible will be treated as being "weak on crime."
ACAB
Prison reform is critical
Imagine living with the sound of gritty grinding reverberating through your skull from shattered vertebrae for three days
And all that for a 20 day sentence
It's absolutely about the cruelty.
Realistically, if they took her to the hospital wouldn't she wind up with an absolutely eye watering hospital bill? One that would likely take her the rest of her life to pay off?
Instead, they calculated that the outcome of denied medical care would cost this person more than a lifetime of medical debt - even if the lawsuit against them paid out.
- It's not that involved I don't think. It's simply sadism.
- Oh BS. Ever been in jail? You're in with some of the dumbest, and incorrigible, members of society. It's stunning how many of those dudes take county jail as a fact of life, totally used to it. They are constantly lying, faking and scheming for anything they can get.
  So what's a CO to do? Apparently their default answer to anything is "NO." I have a friend in CO training who has been lauded for denying any and all inmate requests. That job is going to make him a bastard, I can see it.
  Then you got the guy they transferred in one day. Dude has a clearly infected tooth, face badly swollen on one side. They packed him full of gauge, gave him a cloth to hold his jaw up, like an old Bugs Bunny cartoon, and 2 Tylenol. Damn.
  Point being, jail is a fucked up mess and the CO's are barely brighter than the inmates. Nobody's calculating all that. Hell, if they knew her neck was broken, they also knew they might get their ass sued off.
I'm usually one to discount news stories for being dramatic and misleading, but this one is pretty rough. Unsure how she fell in the first place, but the video of her on the floor with the pointed toes is rough to watch. That's a hard one to fake, and is a clear sign of spinal trauma.
- The article states clearly how she fell. She was sleeping on the top bunk in her cell, about 6' off the ground, and apparently she rolled off and hit the ground, causing a cervical fracture.
  
  Right, I read that part. I'm not very knowledgeable on the topic, but wouldn't a top bunk have a railing?
  For what it's worth, I've seen plenty of inmates who "fell from the top bunk" and they have obvious knuckle marks on their cheeks from being punched. So I'm a little suspicious of those kinds of "falls".
Cruel and unusual punishment. If that's not this, I don't know what is
Just another day in the shitter multiverse
- @Ultragigagigantic @MicroWave
  The most boring place ever
I hate these sob story videos American news stations make of these things. I don't need to see this lady struggling to figure out that this is a horrible thing.
Stories like this is why I find it plausible that Epstein killed himself in jail.
Jails are full of incompetent, cruel workers. They use outdated tech, and don't properly maintain it. Unfortunately, someone dying or killing themselves in jail, even if they're under a suicide watch, even if they're a prominent figure, is all too easy to believe.
"now she's trying to..." what? I thought that when you break your neck that's it, lights go out end of show. How did she end up trying to do anything?
- Oh no. It depends on if any/which nerves are crushed/cut.
  
  So she literally had to hold her head around to do anything the entire time? That's crazy. I'm guessing she just stood there motionless on the floor the entire time. That's what I would do to prevent pain if you move the wrong way.
- That's not how every spinal injury works. It's honestly roll of the dice every time and different for every individual. It can rang from tingling in one or more limbs, extreme pain, loss of control of all voluntary movements, to death.
- There are multiple components running through your neck that coincide with the spinal column. Nerves, blood vessels, the larynx, muscles, all kinds of things. Traumatic injury to the neck can break one or many of those things and not all in the same way, even with similarly natured injuries.
  Someone could break the bones in their neck while maintaining an intact nervous system and not lose the ability to move around, or someone else can snap their nerves or puncture their larynx and suffocate. It all depends.
- Believe it or not, they lie to you in movies / tv.
  
  LOL fair enough.

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