US scientists achieve net energy gain for second time in a fusion reaction
US scientists achieve net energy gain for second time in a fusion reaction
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US scientists achieve net energy gain for second time in a fusion reaction
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Kinda.
The final laser stage of the NIF test was 20MJ and produced 25MJ. But charging the capacitors required over 400MJ.
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Sounds like you didn't read the article or headline and think it's an article from the first time we achieved this. Even then, your numbers are off it seems. Are you actually close to the experiment and know the output?
"US scientists have achieved net energy gain in a nuclear fusion reaction for the second time since a historic breakthrough in December last year in the quest to find a near-limitless, safe and clean source of energy
Scientists at the California-based Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory repeated the breakthrough in an experiment in the National Ignition Facility (NIF) on 30 July that produced a higher energy yield than in December, a Lawrence Livermore spokesperson said.
Final results are still being analysed, the spokesperson added.
Nuclear fusion involves smashing together light elements such as hydrogen to form heavier elements, releasing a huge burst of energy in the process. The approach, which gives rise to the heat and light of the sun and other stars, has been hailed as having huge potential as a sustainable, low-carbon energy source.
In December, Lawrence Livermore first achieved a net energy gain in a fusion experiment using lasers. That experiment briefly achieved what’s known as fusion ignition by generating 3.15 megajoules of energy output after the laser delivered 2.05 megajoules to the target, the Energy Department said.
In other words, it produced more energy from fusion than the laser energy used to drive it, the department said.
The US Department of Energy called it “a major scientific breakthrough decades in the making that will pave the way for advancements in national defense and the future of clean power”.
Fusion energy raises the prospect of plentiful clean power: the reactions release no greenhouse gases or radioactive waste byproducts. A single kilogram of fusion fuel, which is made up of heavy forms of hydrogen called deuterium and tritium, provides as much energy as 10m kilograms of fossil fuel. But it has taken 70 years to reach this point.
Scientists have warned that the technology is far from ready to turn into viable power plants – and is not about to solve the climate crisis – but have hailed the latest breakthroughs as evidence that the power of the stars can be harnessed on Earth."
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Sounds like you didn't read the article or headline and think it's an article from the first time we achieved this. Even then, your numbers are off it seems. Are you actually close to the experiment and know the output?
Sounds like you are just repeating the article without understanding it. They still have to pre charge the capacitors used with the laser, while once charged, they only use so much energy in the process you still have to charge the capacitors and acting like that is not part of the process is extremely disingenuous when charging them takes like 16x the energy generated from fusion before the test can even begin. Ffs
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Exactly can we stop acting like it was actually a net positive when we dismissed the energy used to charge the capacitors in this process.
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Pick a magazine/community and post it ONCE. Thanks.
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Due to the way Lemmy is set up and how people subscribe to communities, if you want something to have a wide reach, you need to post it to multiple instances of the same community. Similarly, if you're trying to gauge, as I am, which of the 7 different "tech" subs or "news" subs actually has community engagement, you need to post to all of them. Interestingly, with the news subs, the ones with more comments are not consistent and not always the ones I expected. Also, the type of engagement varies from community to community so it's pretty interesting seeing how different people in different instances react to the same article.
It'll even out over time, but if you don't like it, you can always block me.
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Ehh yes, 20 years away since 1970s
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
US scientists have achieved net energy gain in a nuclear fusion reaction for the second time since a historic breakthrough in December last year in the quest to find a near-limitless, safe and clean source of energy
Scientists at the California-based Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory repeated the breakthrough in an experiment in the National Ignition Facility (NIF) on 30 July that produced a higher energy yield than in December, a Lawrence Livermore spokesperson said.
The approach, which gives rise to the heat and light of the sun and other stars, has been hailed as having huge potential as a sustainable, low-carbon energy source.
In December, Lawrence Livermore first achieved a net energy gain in a fusion experiment using lasers.
The Energy Department called it “a major scientific breakthrough decades in the making that will pave the way for advancements in national defense and the future of clean power.”
Fusion energy raises the prospect of plentiful clean power: the reactions release no greenhouse gases or radioactive waste byproducts.
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