1y ago

Israel again massacres Palestinian civilians who had gathered to obtain humanitarian aid in Gaza

euromedmonitor.org /en/article/6224/Israel-again-massacres-Palestinian-civilians-who-had-gathered-to-obtain-humanitarian-aid-in-Gaza

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/17439723

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/17439722
Palestinian Territory – Israel’s army has again massacred Palestinian civilians who had gathered in Gaza to obtain humanitarian aid, targeting them with gunfire from helicopters, tanks, and drones near the Kuwait roundabout on the outskirts of Gaza City. This incident has resulted in over 60 deaths and 160 injuries, some of which are critical.

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Is there any point at which the US would allow international pressure to end this genocide? When does it become strategically disadvantageous?
- No because they're the ones sponsoring it
- LOOKS LIKE THE LEMMY CENORS ARE OUT IN FULL FORCE
  This is the comment that I made that got removed:
  Is there any point at which the US would allow international pressure to end this genocide?
  No.
  When does it become strategically disadvantageous?
  Always. We literally had 9/11 because of Israel and still haven't learned our lesson.
  We are literally not allowed to say 9/11 happened because of Israel, despite the mastermind behind the attack literally saying that's why he did it AND I even provided the source!
  https://lemmy.world/comment/8465732
  There are some horrible mods on this team with a clear agenda. We cannot trust them.
  
  On Hexbear, mods will remove any mention of 9/11 in remembrance of Salvador Allende and the CIA backed Chilean coup. /s
- Hmm. How is 9/11 because isreal?
- Once the job is done.
- The current government of Iran and Hamas are both reactions caused by US meddling in the Middle East. The CIA actively led a campaign to get Iranians to turn on a democratic government -> supported Reza Shah -> which lead to the 1979 revolution which established the current government.
- Not as long as Democrat politicians know they can continue to count on our votes while they take money from the Zionist lobby and do their bidding. But don't you dare suggest not voting for Genocide Joe on here. Anyone who would suggest such a thing must be an astroturfing Trump troll. After all, what's a little genocide in the big picture?
  PS: The Zionist lobby isn't an antisemitic dog whistle. In the US, the Zionist lobby probably gets more support from rabid fundamentalist Christians who think Israel's ascendancy will trigger the end times than from Jews. That's been true since the Blackstone Memorial was circulated in 1891.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone_Memorial
  
  Why are you acting like Trump wouldn’t support the genocide? It’s not a choice between genocide and not, so yes you are in fact just trolling for trump.
  
  No one wants to hear it discussed because it's a fucking dumb strategy, like, what effect do you think it'll actually have? You vote for the guy that's most likely to actually do something about it rather than vote to sink the entire fucking ship because your having a temper tantrum. You're insane if you think that's even a remotely viable strategy. I can't believe you're even bringing it up like it's a "good" idea...like wtf.
  You can check my post history. I'm rabidly against this genocide. The IDF has gone unchecked and their treatment of an "enemy populace" is a fucking warcrime. Something needs to be done. But if you think for a second that I or any other rational adult here is going to even remotely humor the idea of doing something that could get Trump elected, you are out of your damned mind.
Israel is an example of what a country shouldn't be like.
- every country supporting israel it's also an example of what countries shouldn't be like
- Yet if you look at the neighboring countries, it's better in almost every way.
  I say "almost" because there could be some minor ways that some neighbor surpasses them.
  
  Except that Jordan is peaceful and in the Arabian/Gulf countries the government takes care of you instead of eradicating you...
  
  Rojava is right there.
  
  there could be some minor ways that some neighbor surpasses them.
  Like, not being actively engaged in a genocide.
Massacre upon massacre.
Yet the Zionist stranglehold on our politicians continues
Fuck israel. All my homies hate israel.
The colonial apartheid state of israel is genociding Palestinian with support from western countries.
And there are still people denying this is a genocide.
I heard a really interesting interview on NPR with Ofer Cassif, the head of an Israeli socialist party who just survived impeachment. He advocates for South Africa's genocide ICC case. But what was more interesting to me was how he was talking about how Netanyahu is using this as an excuse to turn Israel into a dictatorship, something he already tried with his attempt to reform their supreme court.
https://www.npr.org/2024/01/13/1224635827/israeli-lawmaker-on-the-u-n-genocide-case-against-israel
Israel should be sanctioned like North Korea until they stop their genocide.
demons
Its like crocodiles in a watering hole
If they do that 3 or 4 hundred more times Joe Biden might be VERY angry and give them a couple Billion dollars LESS next time!
You people really believe this is the case? They bring the aid, wait for people to come and then kill bunch of them. Then they repeat this process weekly. You seriously think this is what's happening? So are inhabitants of Gaza stupid or have gold-fish memory? Naah, don't think about it bro. Israel bad mkay.
- I understand the desire to believe that such a disgusting war crime isn't actually happening - that it's all propaganda. This kind of thing is sickening if it's true.
  But I don't see any evidence that this isn't exactly what's happening, and with plenty of evidence that it is we cannot let it continue or offer any support to those who are carrying it out.
  
  Hamas has been leading media war forever. Which is the reason why they don't care if civilians die because that makes Israel look bad. They said this themselves number of times. We've had the whole fiasco with bomb on parking lot where Hamas immediately blamed Israel and gave stupid number of casualties and it took months for independent review on the matter to prove it wrong. By that time everyone jumped on the wagon about Israel bombing hospital.
  There are more than one example of this sickening behavior from Hamas. They are the torturers, slaughterers and rapists. And yet majority of people here refuses to believe they might be the one causing issues like these to make Israel look bad. It is actually unbelievable to me that you'd rather believe this is a trap set by Israel with aid where the moment people approach they start shooting, and people of Gaza keep coming back. Stretching your beliefs so hard to blame one party that it borders insanity.
  Burden of proof is on the one making claims. Show a video of Israelis shooting on civilians. Everyone has a phone these days and yet not a single photo. Not a single video. We have videos where Hamas is beating civilians and chasing them away from aid. We sure have that, but then people come and say "ah that's photoshop" that's fake. There's NOTHING here. And yet everyone claims it's true.
This one?
The IDF reports that Palestinian gunmen fired at civilians waiting for aid at Kuwait Square in Gaza City last night, resulting in casualties. IDF troops did not fire during the incident.
As per the IDF's investigation, a convoy of 31 trucks carrying food and humanitarian aid for civilians was en route to northern Gaza. An hour before reaching an IDF-established corridor, armed Palestinians shot at civilians waiting for the aid trucks, according to the probe.
The IDF states that as the aid trucks entered the corridor, the gunmen continued shooting while some Gazans began looting the trucks. The IDF also observed civilians being run over by the trucks.
Hamas health officials reported at least 21 deaths and over 150 injuries in the incident.
After an intensive preliminary review, the IDF concluded that its forces did not fire at the aid convoy at Kuwait Square. The military's operational systems and troops on the ground did not engage in tank shelling, airstrikes, or gunfire toward the Gazan crowd during the aid convoy's presence.
https://twitter.com/Osint613/status/1768585030412976318?s=19
- The past hundred or so 'IDF reports' have been complete lies. Maybe this one will be true.
  -some 🤡
  
  I don't know. A tweet from @OSINT845254459 is a very reliable source of information. /s
- Why are you posting Israeli propaganda lol?
  
  Is this string only for Hamas propaganda?
- Falling for "The IDF reports" is as bad as eating the onion at this point
- So, terrorist fired at civilians and IDF just watched. How is this better?
  
  Well, the last time this happened in northern Gaza about a week ago, Israel was blamed for the deaths of the people rioting. I suppose they for sure sat back and watched it happen. They would be blamed anyway. Oh look. They were.
  Anyway, what occurs to me is that these Egyptian truck drivers, sooner or later, are going to stop delivering aid no matter how much money they make. Can't spend it when you have bullet wounds. Israel will be blamed for that too.
- Sure. Well, since they don't seem to use any bullets all the time, maybe they should accept a ceasefire right now and a peace treaty in the near future, recognizing the Palestinians' right to exist in their own territory. How about that?

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