Can someone tell me the reason why these people don't want to leave Reddit?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/14knc6t/got_r4d_for_pirating_someone_elses_john_oliver_so/

Pirates want to stay on Reddit? This is the last group I had expected to have such a reaction, but here we are. Yes, the mod could have worded it better, but these people actually want to stick around on Reddit.

I personally find Lemmy to be a perfectly viable alternative to Reddit for such subs. I wonder about the reasons why these people still don't want to move.

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/r/Piracy
That's not the real games piracy sub anyways. The true successor of the scene-watching community is and always was /r/CrackWatch and even there people are very aware that they're not contributors, just spectators. So basically, it was a place for movies piracy, and movies piracy is and always been the most piss easy, top result on google piracy around. I haven't gone on a single website to pirate movies in a decade, shit is all searchable either directly on qBit and deluge or on tracker tools.
They don't want to come over, so what? They're irrelevant. A wiki service reddit, barely anything else. A place for people who unironically install uTorrent and don't even know what the u stands for.
Hey, they can stay on Reddit with their beloved memes, I don't really care.
Why wouldn't they want to stay? It works for them. Before ideology, before morality, before any other thing you can conceive of is plain, simple convenience. And Reddit is certainly convenient. Once enough users leave, they'll leave, too.
- Pirates by ethics = root of socialism, anarchism?
  Pirates by convenience = root of capitalism and imperialism?
It's so hard to join lemmy now, and everything lags in lemmy even just an upvote...
Because Lemmy isn’t as conveniently accessed, and it’s just slow.
It’s also confusing.
- Can you mention the specific points of confusion that have impeded your experience here?
  
  Trying to find a community for a popular topic isn’t the easiest in the world… it’s a bit like the old days where you had to find a good forum for the topic you wanted to chat about.
Habit spawns laziness and stupidity as well as a false sense of loyalty.
This is actually something I think might be concerning in the long run. Reddit's current direction has driven away a contingent of users who tend to share similar moral values; Lemmy's userbase tends pretty left with a lot of content here being anti-capitalist and pro-marginalized groups. It makes sense that decentralized federated networks would be attractive to those subsets of users.
What I'm afraid of is that this will create a vacuum in which Reddit becomes even more of a breeding grounds for right-wing rhetoric and propaganda without the presence of these users to balance it out a bit. I know that as a Reddit-addicted teen, I hovered dangerously close to some pretty disgusting ideologies. Thankfully I discovered some leftist communities which expanded my narrow worldview and veered me to a much happier path. I don't think reddit as a platform will die, but I fear those communities might, and I shudder to think at what reddit could become without them.
People's resistance to change is quite strong, even if they have good reason to leave and lemmy/fediverse are great alternatives the fact is that in terms of UX lemmy can be quite different and takes some time to find and rebuild a list of communities to join, specially since you can have the same community on different servers (i.e. technology on beehaw vs technology on lemmy.world) and just this fact means a learning curve for people that for the most part don't like change.
Lemmy still has the same inherent drawbacks of Reddit, but now the mods have complete power with no admin oversight whatsoever.
The moderators of a community have no right to kill it. If people wish to leave for Lemmy, I welcome it. if the other sub died naturally, I'd migrate over here myself (the same way I migrated to Reddit gradually through dozens of forums dying naturally)
Forcefully trying to kill the sub serves no purpose other than to centralize piracy knowledge, benefit Reddits IPO by getting rid of a hated subreddit, and allow more mod censorship. Also, Lemmy isn't indexed by google, so you're fully reliant on the inbuilt search unlike Reddit. (which makes Lemmy less useful for finding specific content)
Lemmy is still in it's early stages. I'm a part of 1k+ communities on Reddit and fewer than half have a prescence on Lemmy or an equivalent.
Dearth of NSFW content. (I mean really, it's kinda sad. Even twitter has more regularly posted nsfw than Lemmy.)
UI and UX are garbage. I've had more 503s on Lemmy the past week than Reddit the past 8 years. The new reddit app looks & feels better than any available android app for Lemmy. (and honestly on desktop too)
Why 'move' ?
If the mods don't want to moderate the old sub, then pass the torch.
Considering piracy's focus on decentralization, y'all are oddly supportive of centralizing your content on a Lemmy instance hosted by one guy.
Which brings me to:
The person who hosts the Lemmy instance can edit the database directly just like Spez can with Reddit. You're trading centralized power around admins for centralized power around the server host. So essentially just downgrading to the old forum days.. (you know, the stuff Reddit replaced in large part.)
I'm sure this will get downvoted to hell, but these are a few reasons why the Reddit community shouldn't be killed.
- Lemmy IS indexed by Google. Try searching for “site:lemmy.world” for instance. Also, if it you don’t like the way one admin is running their communities/server then you can move to another server/community and be completely out of the control of the first. Try doing that on Reddit.

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