Meta will delete all non-migrated Oculus accounts in March

Oculus could have been great, it's a shame that Meta metastasized and destroyed them.

My account still isn't migrated. Having sold my CV1 for an Index, and even having switched to Linux since, I don't think I'll bother.
But man... Really, really good times were had on that headset, Echo VR, Robo Recall, From Other Suns...
- I'm still rocking the HTC Vive I bought after I found out Oculus had been bought out, but one of these days I'd like to upgrade. Vive still works pretty great though. How are you liking the Index?
- How is the Index? I don't know anything about it beyond Steam games in VR.
Yes. I was going to get one and instantly changed my mind when it was purchased by Facebook.
Yep, instantly got crappier when it switched from oculus to Facebook. Maybe my memory is failing, but I thought I recall switching from oculus to Facebook and then recently from Facebook to meta account. Shitier and Shitier.
I remember being excited about oculus when they started developing their headsets. Then I heard Facebook bought them, and the first thing Zuckerbot had to say about it was how excited he was to develop Virtual Reality advertisements. I have never lost as much interest in a product as quickly before or since.
- Meta is cancer, pure and simple.
The sacrifice might still end up being worth something as Facebook subsidised so much of the cost of the hardware in the push that they ended up selling over 20 million headsets introducing VR to a huge new audience. If that actually translates to long term VR users or fizzles down as a one-off curiosity we shall see in the coming years when those people are up for an upgrade.
- One could argue that someone other than Facebook/Meta could have done better but I guess we'll never know for sure.

Gee. Remember the last time Meta lied about this sort of thing? I remember.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/393371/oculus-vr-headsets-will-soon-require-a-facebook-account.html

When Meta bought Oculus, I boxed up my OG Rift and threw it in the basement, and bought a Reverb G2. I'd rather be tied to a dead platform (WMR) than Meta. Fuck Meta, and fuck Facebook. Don't buy their products, don't give them your data, don't give them a dime.

Yeah, Oculus went from neutral-leaning-positive in my mind to not-worth-consideration as soon as FB bought it.
When Meta bought Oculus, I boxed up my OG Quest and threw it in the basement,
Meta (at the time it was still just named Facebook) bought Oculus before they ever released a retail product. Facebook bought them between the release of the original dev kit on Kickstarter and the dk2 in 2014. They had already been owned by Facebook for 2 years when the first Retail Rift came out in 2016. The first Quest didn't come out until 2019, 5 years after Facebook/Meta bought Oculus.
- For the story to make sense, I'm guessing that the person you're responding to meant OG Oculus or OG Rift as in the development kit.
Feel the hate. Let it flow through you.
Unfortunately the Reverb G2 will be junk when WMR is removed from Windows.
- I'd doubt it. There are already open source projects to make it (and other similar headsets) work without WMR including on Linux, and it's likely you'll be able to shoehorn and install the final release of WMR back into Windows manually just like you can with all kinds of other legacy Microsoft stuff.
Reverb G2 owner here. Also, fuck Microsoft and Fuuuuuuck HP.
The article is about not having to link your Meta account and your Facebook account.
- And the time before that, when Meta claimed you would not need a Meta/Facebook account at all and could continue using your old Oculus account. They reneged on that within about a year, from what I recall. Sources on that are tough to find because they've been trampled by the more recent bait-and-switch, and subsequently this one.
  Long story short, Meta has now lied three times about the ongoing account requirements to continue to use the hardware you've already paid for, pulling the rug out from users contradicting what they said before.

How is this legal? Feels ridiculous to lose games I paid for just because I didn't migrate my account. Same with the Microsoft minecraft account migration. When I bought my CV1 there was the promise that I would not need a facebook account.

You don't need a facebook account a meta account was available as an alternative. That's great right? Much better!!!
I don't know if meta accounts still exist... The whole migration was a huge mess. The oculus brand was much cooler. I wouldn't have bought my oculus quest 1 if it had been a facebook product back then.
- You don't need a facebook account a meta account was available as an alternative. That's great right? Much better!!!
  Actually yes. The problem with needing a Facebook account was that it was part of an unrelated service (social network, messenger, etc.) that you couldn't separate. Meta accounts are separate accounts for VR only, much like the previous Oculus accounts.
- Facebook has owned oculus since before the CV1, but I agree it was much less intergrated and still felt like a separate brand. I'm definitely biased as fuck, but "oculus" is infinitely better than "meta". Much better sounding name. I just made a meta account to migrate my oculus account, but I can't find any way to do it on PC without a quest. I don't have a quest, so I guess I'm fucked?
This is why I buy physical or steam, even though steam is a copout lol. Steam has never let me down
- Yep, I wish I bought all my VR games from steam, but I bought a few from oculus when I first bought the headset. Also some games are oculus exclusive :/
- Steam has never let you down yet
  Yarr
How do I even migrate??? I can't figure it out
I was playing Minecraft on and off since the alpha, and refused to upgrade to Microsoft account. I bought computer lego, not a Microsoft tracking app.

I have simply chosen not to own an Oculus Rift.

Problem solved.

It's a great product, just not well managed by a trustworthy company. I worked at target back in the day when the Quest 2 was around and I got one brand new for about $220 after employee discounts and gift card offers.
It's a shame to see it change over time, but damn is the price accessible compared to $800+ headsets at the time. You gotta admit it really lowered the bar for entry for VR seeing how it's now also 40% of SteamVR users.
- I really hate what they've done with the product.
  But due to the low price point VR has taken off and loads of parents got it for thier kids. That means more Devs have made games and more competition making headsets.
Same. Lost all interest when Palmer sold out to Zuck.
i'm holding out for an Index 2 but Valve really doesn't seem to be in any rush
- I wouldn’t be surprised if their next hardware product was a standalone portable VR headset. Here’s some info to back it up: https://www.roadtovr.com/valve-working-on-vr-steam-deckard-oled/

And this is why I never bought an oculus. I don't trust that dirt bag company.

I bought a cv1 when it was just Oculus.
I'm not very fond of the later developments.
I did the migration though, because it's not like I have a choice, and the damn thing still has no Linux support.
Maybe I'll switch to something else when I rebuild my machine when all the construction work is done here and I finally have an office and a proper network again. Getting really tired of my laptop's tiny screen.

For a couple years now, I've only had an old PSVR. It's obviously limited, has quite low res and is only usable for a few games on my PS4, but hey, it was my entry point to VR anyway, and it's already pretty fun.

I know at some point I will get a PC VR set, if only to get more out of it. And I already know I am ready to pay significantly more for it not to be meta. I don't care if they pretend their accounts are separate, I don't trust them and I want nothing to do with them.

I'm interested to see what comes of Sony adding PC support to the PSVR2.
If it just drops right into SteamVR I might pick one up.

I didn't migrate and abandoned anything Meta, I view this as an absolute win! Saved me the time hah

Glad I got the Q3 when I did then if this would have meant losing the 3 apps I accidentally purchased on the Q2 instead of on Steam.

I do kinda feel bad for the Meta employee that has to monitor me beating off to VR porn tho.

How's the experience? Asking for a buddy
- It's better than the Q2 visually and performance wise; exactly the same UI/UX otherwise. I like how much lighter it is, too. I keep falling asleep while using it to watch movies in a super comfy VRchat world.
  I haven't used any other VR devices aside from some crazy experience in the 90's at Disney Land they had in Tomorrow Land once and Google Cardboard back when that was a new thing. It's 1000 times better than that was lol

Yep. I was actually seriously thinking of getting a MQ2 or 3 in January, but knowing that Meta could just decide to brick it overnight meant I held off.

Let's delete them.

This is the best summary I could come up with:

In an email sent to users, the company says it will delete Oculus accounts on March 29th, 2024, preventing you from reactivating or retrieving your apps, in-app purchases, store credits, and more.

Meta stopped letting users log in to their Oculus accounts in January 2023.

If you’ve got a Quest gathering dust in a drawer somewhere, now’s your last chance to migrate your Oculus account to a Meta one.

From there, you’ll be able to access all of the same games, data, and other purchases saved to your Oculus account.

Several of us here at The Verge received the email, including a couple of my colleagues who have already converted their Oculus accounts to Meta.

The Verge reached out to Meta with a request for more information but didn’t immediately hear back.

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I don't get the angry comments... Oculus 1 only require an email address, because people didn't want to have to link their oculus account with their Facebook account.

...I don't know about Oculus 2, but the article is saying that Oculus 3 only requires a Meta account... It's not saying it has to be linked to your Facebook account.

Your account will just switch from being with Oculus, to being with Meta... It doesn't say anything about this suddenly linking your Facebook account to your Oculus/Meta account.

It doesn't have to say it. All Meta accounts automatically link all Meta products into it. Including Facebook and Instagram. It somehow knew about my Instagram even though I used a different email for that than I did with Facebook years ago, and when I made my Meta account for the Q3 it linked Facebook, Instagram and Oculus together without any additional input from me.
- I deleted my Facebook account the first time they said you'd have to link your oculus account to Facebook and were banning new accounts people created to do so. I just converted my oculus to meta and still don't have a Facebook or Instagram account.

Wow... Just learned about that NOW. I wanted to play some games today and wondered why my account doesnt work nor the "forgot password"-Function...

Fuck Meta. Fuck Oculus... Fuck this whole Enshittification that is going on lately...

Is there ANY Way, to get my CV1 to run Without an account?!

I got my rift s shelved because broken cable and replacement costs more than used quest 2. I don't even bother migrating, as all my games are on steam.

I like my Q3 a lot.

Meta also own Instagram and Threads... And you don't have to link those two services either.

...that's a lot more account separation than Google gives you. It's gets some people's phone, email, location, and search history.