2y ago

What is your opinion on deradicalization/deNazication programs?

I'm talking about programs like life after hate or those exit programs in Europe.

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I think people (especially people in communities directly affected by nazi violence) don’t have any obligation to be involved, or to “forgive” somebody who wants to escape certain patterns of thought, but I can’t find any argument against it that fits in my moral compass. Nazism shouldn’t exist but I’m not so jaded as to think that violence is the ONLY way to combat it
Why would people be against them
- At first glance, it sounds uncomfortably similar to a "reeducation camp"
  
  At first glance you sound like a Nazi
- Some view anything less than outright shunning as coddling these viewpoints.
  
  These programs you're referring to are voluntary, right?
  So, the folks who would be against such programs on that basis think that if a(n arguably former) nazi enters the group not yet fully free of the bigotry they've taken concrete steps to overcome and says something, say, anti-semitic, if the program doesn't kick them out on a zero-tolerance policy, then the program is supporting (or at least insufficiently condemning) anti-semitism?
  Edit: on rereading, I get the feeling you're saying something more like some people think having anything to do with (even recovering) nazis is tacit complicity or something.
I'd hope they work but I've seen too many "former" nazis get criticized for still holding some terrible views then immediately throw a tantrum and run back to the far-right because they don't actually want to take accountability they want to get coddled by the same minorities they hurt and be told how clever and brave they are for no longer being bigots.
- Yes, because the ultimately didn't get rid of the root of the problem and so they go back to their ways. Very similar to how a person who doesn't do rehab correctly or had a bad experience with it will go back to using drugs when things get hard because that's their coping mechanism.
  They need to have better coping mechanisms.
  The exit program in Germany for example has a 3% recidivism rate. Not too bad.

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