Always have been, why do you ask?

"Buenas noches, mein Führer!"

ya, ya

That movie might be the only case of an adaptation purposefully doing a severe putdown of the source material.

I read the book just a couple years ago thinking it would be awesome because the book is usually better than the movie, and oh my God. I can't believe someone actually thought that kind of government would be rad.
- I'm not sure if Heinlein genuinely thought it would be rad. He did play around with a lot of ideas in his books. Stranger in a Strange Land is totally different and full on hippie communism or whatever you'd call it, which is in a bit of a contrast to Starship Troopers. And then there's the Finnish matriarchy in one of the books. Of course another explanation was that he just radically changed his minds but I dunno.
  Interesting stuff, nevertheless and IMO really good book if you like military scifi.
- I always find it interesting to read stories investigating alternative ideas. I'm generally very left wing in my views. Stories like starship troopers are 1 way of doing it.
  The thing is, such a system has some significant advantages. You just need to paper over the cracks. The biggest issue is the requirement for an external enemy. Without one, it would likely turn inwards and destroy itself. In the book's case it's the bugs that provide this. They are also not mindless. You start the book with a terror raid on an ally of the bugs, proving they are capable of interstellar diplomacy. It's designed to "persuade" them to stay out of the war, but they also idly use nuclear weapons on civilian targets.
- Its a facist utopia, if you're a facist it IS great.
- The parts of that book that aren't heavy handed philosophy are great. There's some fuckin awesome sci Fi hidden in the book that's pretty much "Atlas shrugged for the military"
- People used to think that a lot.
  They still do too, which is concerning.
- The movie more borrowed the name than anything. "Bug assault on outpost 9" is the origination story.
- There is a lot of good arguments in that book.
  A system where you have to do something positive for your country to vote isn't the worst idea.
Like the guy on the pic being Filipino, for example.
I still wouldn't say it's fascist, rather paleo-Republican. Too nostalgic about Athens or the Roman republic.
I know I lived under a rock and all, but what is the movie's name?
- Starship Troopers. It's great.
putdown of the source material.
Did we read a different book or did the adaptation also eat the onion like all the fascists referencing the film?
Starship Troopers won the Hugo Award
wait...
- Definitely not. Verhoeven (the director) is a WW 2 survivor (he was living in the occupied Netherlands as a child) and he very obviously satirizes the fascism of the book. See also: RoboCop.

frantically hides NASA scientists behind a potted ficus

Hey man, you got any more of them pixels?

Sorry, that's all I could afford at the meme market.

This movie could easily be seen as a world where Germany won WW2, so I think they had to include that part about Japan being bombed to prevent that.

It’s an egalitarian military oligarchy. They know no race or gender, as long as you’re doing your part you can be a citizen too.
I don’t think that fits very well with what Hitler had planned…
- it is an in-universe propaganda film in a fascist regime. it is not the nazi fascism, but it is still facism
- They had to throw in some POC as well.
- I don’t think that fits very well with what Hitler had planned…
  You don't have to know race once gwhite is the only race around...
- Misunderstanding the movie for 500, Alex
If Germany won world war 2 in that movie, why were all the characters clearly descended from Germans hiding in South America after ww2?
- I assumed they conquered the world.

under their breath

"And I say kill 'em all!"

What a totally random memeable thing. Good thing there's absolutely no Nazi allegories in Starship Troopers whatsoever and this wasn't 100% intentional.

Well, Heinlein was a liberal, if of a militarist and nuke happy bent in the years following his naval career where he helped fight Nazis, and Verhoeven didn't bother reading the book in his years as a scared Dutch child whose country was liberated, by Americans, from Nazis.
In the book "Johny Rico" is actually named Juan Rico, and his native tongue is Tagalong.
He's a Filipino.
Heinlein often did this, he'd give the MC a lot of relatable but non-identifiable characteristics for his primary audience (white men) to latch on to, then reveal details like that at the end.
It's almost like Verhoeven's hack ass should have bothered reading a 200 page novel he was paid to make a movie out of.
- Eh, to me Starship Troopers has a similar relationship to the book it was based on to Dr. Strangelove. It's an adaptation that kind of pokes at the ideas therein by adding a large dose of ridiculousness.
- The movie was based on "Bug Assault on Outpost 9" so....