Israel declares Brazil’s Lula ‘persona non grata’ over comparison of Gaza war to Holocaust
Israel declares Brazil’s Lula ‘persona non grata’ over comparison of Gaza war to Holocaust
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A badge of honor.
To be held in esteem by Israel - at any point in its history - is a deep stain on any reputation to put it mildly. Anyone with humanity is an enemy to fascists and ethnostates.
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Hey mate, too much hyperbole rots your brain.
Please be better informed:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Righteous_Among_the_Nations?wprov=sfla1
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Now, here's the kicker: the brazilian rightwing, which contains actual (veiled) nazis and other jew-hating groups, are siding with Israel on this matter. The jokes write themselves.
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Most right-wing groups hate Muslims more than Jews.
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It's really weird to see how almost infantalizing the Israeli minister is towards the ambassador. Like he's correcting a child or something. I suppose when you're commiting genocide you carry that attitude with you everywhere.
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Only once they kill 6 million palestinians you can compare those two.
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So it’s a numbers thing, then? Until they get to that six million, all those dead kids don’t matter? What if they stop at 5.9 million, are the Israelis still murderers? Help me figure this out, I’ve always been curious how the minds of sociopaths work.
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I don't support flagrantly massacring civilians, but since you stooped to his level by indulging in his numbers game, I grew curious how the numbers actually compare and would like to share, just as an objective reference for perspective.
Stick around/read bottom part for the big caveat on these numbers though, if it isn't already obvious.
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum estimates 6 million of 9.5 million European Jews died in the Holocaust. Mass murder by poison gas appears to have commenced on/around Dec 08 '41 first at Chelmno and presumably ceased around the time Germany surrendered on May 07 '45. 1246 days of killing. 6,000,000/1246 = ~4,815 Jews killed per day on average.
I don't recall the exact date Israel began retaliations, I believe it was around 3 weeks after, but I'm going to start the time window for Israel's slaughter on Oct 7 '23 to keep things simple, mind the inaccuracy that comes with this. As of time of writing, on Feb 19 '24 (135 days since window start), Gaza Health Ministry has stated that at least 29,000 Palestinians have been killed since the start of the war. 29,000/135 = ~215.
So when comparing the numbers killed per day, we're still at not even 1/20th the scale of the Holocaust. Regardless, we should hope to never even be near 1/100th the scale, but this is reality and these are the numbers.
Next I want to look at population. Mosaica counts ~5 million Palestinians combined in Gaza and West Bank. This means that, so far, roughly 0.6% of the Palestinian population has been slaughtered compared to the estimated 2 out of 3 European Jews slaughtered in the Holocaust...
NOW for the caveat: we are only 135 days in. They didn't even have Auschwitz operational 135 days into Hitler's reign. I'm not a historian. I can't tell you how many Jews died 135 days into the Holocaust, and I can't even give you a ballpark range. So if you really want a numbers to numbers comparison, I guess you'll have to wait until after history repeats itself to crunch the numbers.
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You're missing my point that there are no 6 million Palestinians, only about 2.5 million in Gaza and 3 million in the West Bank, so you will never be able to compare it to tho Holocaust, even if they kill every single one of them, that was my point. The 6 million is the number of Jews who died in the Holocaust.
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I would be proud of the honor of being banned from Israel.