Nancy Pelosi asks pro-Palestinian protesters to ‘go back to China’ in video
Nancy Pelosi was caught on camera asking pro-Palestinian protesters to ‘go back to China’
So I guess genocide is an American value, and if you oppose genocide then you're unamerican.
Just another data point indicating that I have never actually been American, and I should have no loyalty to it.
So I guess genocide is an American value, and if you oppose genocide then you’re unamerican.
Settlers built this country off inordinate amounts of slavery and genocide; this has always been the score. Why do you think they're so gung-ho, brook-no-dissent about genociding Palestine? Israelis are just Junior Americans at this point.
That's what I've been telling people who say "I won't vote for someone who supports genocide:" This is America. All our politicians support genocide. That and "more jobs" are the only things both parties agree on.
If you want to vote for someone who isn't pro-genocide you're gonna have to move, or get used to never, ever, ever getting what you want.
Yes, it sucks. But there's literally nothing we can do about it unless you want to get a degree in physics and build a time machine and sink Columbus's boat before he sights land.
I served in the Army and I think this country is a festering shithole of privilege and corruption. I don't stand for the stupid national anthem, ever.
I stand, but I sing The Internationale instead.
How convenient for dem leadership that anyone who disagrees with them is actually a foreign agent.
So there's articles now about her calling them both Chinese and Russian agents for protesting. Nice job, grandma.
Then she doubles back and said she's actually calling for a cease fire too...
But what she's really asking for is a complete surrender of Gaza.
Like when idiots say the invasion of Ukraine needs to end, so Ukraine needs to surrender.
If your call for a cease fire is the victim to surrender to the aggressor, that's not a cease fire, it's you being on the bad guys side.
Might have something to do with this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/03/technology/israel-hamas-information-war.html
In case of paywall:
What she said isn't as absurd as it seems.
The Dems and Dem-aligned corporate media have spent the last eight years pushing Russiagate conspiracy theories, and now they’re expanding BlueAnon to include China because the US is itching to ramp up Cold War II.
People seem to be mad about what you've said based on the votes, but you're right. Russiagate in 2016 was a nothingburger and democrats have been riding it for the past 8 years: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/01/09/russian-trolls-twitter-had-little-influence-2016-voters/
Wait, are you denying Russian and Chinese interference?
This you?
This happened more than five minutes ago so she forgot. Consequences of having an entire government filled with dementia ridden corpses. What can you do?🤷♀️
100% against the genocide in Palestine and think our representatives should be doing everything they can to stop supporting it but this video is clearly edited. Pelosi's mouth is moving basically the whole video yet you can hear absolutely nothing from her except the very end when she gets into the suv. You can very faintly hear the "go back to China" line. However if you look at her mouth it's not matching up with it at all. Someone clearly dubbed audio over video to make it sound like something it wasn't.
So she’s not just an asshole, but bad at geography too. Got it.
Kinda like you're unable to recognize fake dubs.
If she stays in much longer, she'll be the Democrats' Mitch McTurdle.
Is there any indication that this desperate ploy to reframe any criticism of Israel's genocide in Gaza or recognition of innocent Palestinians' basic humanity and rights as purely foreign propaganda is working at all? It's absolutely craven
How do these guys fuck up sitters every day. I'm not a yank but you fucks export all your rhetoric and issues anyway so can you get your shit together please.
This old bag of bones needs to fuck off, get out and vote for Christ's sake.
I'm voting twice this year
Based anti-imperalist, class traitor Neville Roy Singham is based.
I remember that garbage NYT hit piece from last year. Global North corporate media gotta push the new cold war. Before that article it was secret Chinese police stations in NYC, and before that it was Chinese spy balloons. Burgerlanders will believe anything.
Your claim is that China is supporting... A grassroots feminist movement? Abortion? Palestine?
The horror.
I don't think this post should have been removed. I wanted to see arguments and rebuttals being made.
You can still see it in the modlog, but generally it's not a good idea to roll in the mud. Your mental health is worth far more than that.
What do you mean the video is fake? Is it CGI? Actors?
I'm a bit confused by this:
“For [the pro-Palestinian protesters] to call for a cease-fire is Mr. Putin’s message, Mr. Putin’s message. Make no mistake, this is directly connected to what he would like to see.
Let's just put aside the fact that asking for a ceasefire for most people is a humanitarian request. You don't need to have picked a side to accept that the ordinary people need some kind of help getting to safety (or relative safety). I'm not commenting on that here though.
It may be that I'm missing something obvious, in which case fine. But, how does a cease-fire in Gaza benefit Putin? I would say that any instability elsewhere in the world (Gaza, Houthi rebels, the Iran Pakistan thing the other week) work entirely in his favour. While the west (and some of the rest of the world) need to move to stabilise problems aside from the war in Ukraine, they have less time, resources to spend checking up on his activities in Ukraine. The media time is split away from what's happening over there and of course, military budget is redirected away from arms for Ukraine, to operations in these other regions and arms for Israel.
I must be missing something, right?
But, how does a cease-fire in Gaza benefit Putin?
It doesn't. A ceasefire in Gaza means the US wouldn't need to send ammunitions to Israel to massacre Palestinians, freeing more supplies to be sent to Ukraine to fight Russia.
The conflict continuing and spreading across the region and getting the US stuck in the Middle East distracting it from Ukraine though, does help Putin. So, this leaves us with a logical conclusion, Pelosi is either a Russian-asset or just relishes in genociding Palestinians.
However, Israel is buying ammunition (at least with an IOU), whereas Ukraine is just receiving charity. From that perspective, it's easy to see why politicians are more willing to support Israel than Ukraine.
If it turns out in a few years time that Russia leant on Iran to lean on various Middle East actors to stir up trouble at that exact point to distract from Ukraine, you can colour me unsurprised.
Because Zionist usurpers don't give Palestinians enough reasons to resist? I'm not even Palestinians and I wish I could fight.
I guess liberals cannot be upset that people against the genocide didn't vote for them. They are all Chinese according to them.
We need to pass a constitutional amendment that sets the maximum age to hold public office (including judges) to 67 years old. You can do whatever you want past 67, but you can't hold public office.
Read the room, Nancy!
Copying my comment from elsewhere in this thread:
Individual encounters may have to do with the declining mental faculties of geriatrics, but the superstructure of the capitalist class (who are the ones pushing the stories about foreign interference and terrorists and red/yellow/brown scare all that pro-empire propaganda) that must change. Voting in yet another capitalist sponsored imperialist drum beater (the only type of candidate that's allowed to run for election) who's a bit younger than these should-be seniors home residents won't change anything at all. Pointing the finger at the advanced age of elected officials is a distraction, simple as that.
Yeah it may not help buy it couldn't hurt.
I fuckin wish China was where I came from. I am literally so ashamed of, so vehemently, hatefully disgusted by the nation I was born into, a nation in which white settler ghouls have indicated they're going to keep their foot on the entirety of my race's collective neck (thanks Joe, will never forgive you for Cop City or for RICO charging the protestors against it), that I wish they'd deport me to China.
It'd save me about ten, fifteen grand in travel costs, I'd probably find better work, better living conditions, and most importantly, a sense of belonging that I haven't had since some old settler hag decided she wanted to call cops on me for going for a fuckin walk. I fuckin wish. In fact, I pray the Anglo settlers try to start a war they couldn't possibly keep the materiel up for. I'd defect in a New York minute.
Someone needs to pick up a Chinese history book...
Ah, a kbin poster. I can safely assume hazardous, nigh-fatally toxic chauvinism and insufferable settlerism out of you, can't I? Dollars to donuts says what you refer to as a "chinese history book" is really just what your masters tell you; and I have no interest in your skewed perspective.
As long as I have to hear about Black folk getting slabbed out by pigs, as long as I have to hear about protestors against the regime getting locked up on federal racketeering charges (and then carcerally enslaved after the fact), as long as I have to hear about how 'this is the best place for people like me' when the settlers are trying to put civil rights in front of the same firing squad that erected concentration camps for migrants on the southern border while putting Roe v. Wade and affirmative action to death (and the guy we were told would stop that has thoroughly reneged on any promises he made), anywhere is better than here; especially the people you try to convince me are enemies.
Is this the same China that recently lifted over 800 million people out of extreme poverty? Please, enlighten us with your China expertise.
So literally fake news is OK on here?
Please support your claim that this news is fake.
Why do you think this is fake news when anyone can see the video for themselves?
The Hill | Rising: Go back to China': Nancy Pelosi shames ceasefire protestors, suggests they're foreign assets
Can you cite it being fake news?
So is the video CGI? Actors? How is this fake?
You must be new here.
I love how the mask just keeps falling off. US politicians keep exposing themselves as racist scumbags.
How so? Why makes you say it’s fake?
I hear "Go to China with your fake genocide" in the video. The video is in the article.
Is calling everything fake the new Zionist way to debunk things when it's clearly on video?
They've already been trying to decry Palestinian images from the occupation's crimes as AI-rendered; it doesn't surprise me they're trying it here too. The contradictions are intensifying in real time; what they do to their enemies is exactly what will come to us. Three-fold law, but for politics, lmao.
I fuckin love how all these settlers keep swarming in here like "IT'S A FAKE VIDEO IT'S A FAKE VIDEO" when it's CODEPINK who took the video in the first place back in October. And then, when pushed back on, said settlers go straight crickets for the rest of the thread! Mfs lied for 50 years about everything about the democrat party, lied about what America is full stop; and expect to be taken seriously now? Without evidence, your allegations aren't worth the paper I wipe my ass with in the morning, but you think I'm just gonna take it on faith that some settler just says it's fake on some "trust me bro" shit.
Mfs really want us to believe it's deepfake or something-- and I said this would happen! I know I've said "the next time a democrat says some fuckshit, liberal invertebrates will swarm out from under their rocks and logs to desperately try to convince us it's a deepfake now that that's a valid excuse". Stay proving me right.
Do people really expect that there comes something meaningfully out of such a old brain under that kind of pressure? Have you never talked to such old people? They need way more time to think compared to young people. Americans should stop voting such old people into politics, it is just not efficient. But of course, we have the same problem here..
Individual encounters may have to do with the declining mental faculties of geriatrics, but the superstructure of the capitalist class (who are the ones pushing the stories about foreign interference and terrorists and red/yellow/brown scare all that pro-empire propaganda) that must change. Voting in yet another capitalist sponsored imperialist drum beater (the only type of candidate that's allowed to run for election) who's a bit younger than these should-be seniors home residents won't change anything at all. Pointing the finger at the advanced age of elected officials is a distraction, simple as that.
Fair enough, well said 😇 only voting young people because their young doesn’t solve all issues, but I guess most young people would at least get what’s going on in the world compared to all that old folks walking like zombies trough that big white building without even knowing how the internet works.
You're bordering on an ageist take; but by all measurable data, the fascist thanatocracy we're living under absolutely isn't it, and is probably prompted by boomer lead poisoning.
Sorry, I have hard time understanding what exactly you want to say to be honest So first, thanatocracy means something like being ruled by a dead person 🤨? And those dead leaders are not old 🤨🤨? And now what has this to do with lead poisoning 🤨🤨🤨? Sorry, I’m a bit confused about what you want to tell me..
She's one of the most well known leaders in the united states...
former leader. She's grandma with a seat in Congress now, but the press won't move on, especially if she's saying Trump level shit like this.
Yea but she is still old and unter heavy pressure, I even would not be surprised if she’d have peed in her pants out of fear. Guess what, US leaders are as well just humans after all.
Just a crazy old lady ranting on the street.
This is so misleading. The headline plus thumbnail makes it look like she got up on a stage and said that , but the article just embeds a shoddy phone video where you can barely understand her.
I'm not defending Pelosi but can we at least have some journalistic standards? This isn't worldnews, and it's barely USA news.
"I'm not defending Pelosi but" [proceeds to try and defend Pelosi bc "shoddy phone video"]. Journalistic standards in America are dead. There are none. The only standard is "whatever lets these corrupt boomer ghouls commit more war", so my 'standard' is whatever puts these people's true faces in the public discourse. I'm not about to discard CODEPINK's word just because a bunch of bougies have issues with cell phone videos.
We really need to vote her out this round, San Francisco deserves better than this
She needs to be sitting in a rocking chair somewhere knitting sweaters, not involved in any form of government beyond a local bingo committee. It’s a disgrace to have her in politics.
can you die already you old cunt
Politicians should be retired at the age of 70. These old fucks are so out of touch, it would be comical if it wasn't costing human lives every fucking day.
What do you mean? They literally show the video.
This is the same kind of language employed by far right assholes everywhere.
"If you don't like it, go back to $countryTheyAssumeYouCameFrom", yup. Just a further blurring of the lines between blue and red. By 2032, it'll just be varying shades of purple, and most of them will be angled toward the fuchsia end.
It wasn't a "zinger", I was drawing an equivalence between this lady's "go back to China" rhetoric and the language of the far right where anyone who doesn't toe the line is accused of being a foreign agent.