'Not welcome here': Arab leaders cancel Dearborn meeting with Biden campaign manager
'Not welcome here': Arab leaders cancel Dearborn meeting with Biden campaign manager
1 in 200 Gazans were killed, for people who has family in that area of the world, they were someone's old neighbour, friend or relative.
I get that not voting for Biden effectively helps the Republicans, but those groups won't agree to be political pawns, not at least without actions supporting an immediate ceasefire first.
It's closer to 1 in every 80 who have been killed now (26,083 out of apx 2.1 million).
1 in 200 Gazans were killed
How'd you get that? I come up with 1 in 80 using 25,000 dead and population of 2,000,000.
My numbers were from late November when it was about 10-15k. WP Source
It's already 1+ in 100.
Abssolutely right... so much has happened since I got those numbers in November... :(
I dunno. They could run Clinton again.
Other than the actions Biden has already taken to get a ceasefire, including the one which happened, what specific actions would you suggest that wouldn't damage his chances at the polls more than it gained him?
Ronald Reagan stopped Israels invasion with a single phone call in 20 minutes
And no, it didn't cost him votes.
This is such a helpless 'well what can I do' abdication of responsibility. It's also completely ahistorical.
Congrats on your propaganda.
How many people were killed by Hamas rockets fired at malls and schools over the last decade? They had families too, but you never cared about those.
And frankly you only care now cause the news told you to, this has been going on for a long time and it's been allowed because Arabs want Palestinians wiped out too
I know it's been a long term conflict, I was hopeful for peaceful negotiations to happen but clearly Bibi doesn't want that through Israeli proxy funding of militant terror groups.
I was upset at Hamas' October 7th attack. But what has happened since is unprecedented in recent memory of that conflict. The number of Palestinian casualties is multiple times higher than the cumulative amount in the 15 years prior to October 7th 2023.
The reaction to this massacre, a systematic destruction of life and property, is inappropriate and I don't stand for it.
You'll surely get a better deal under trump
Right? The guy who moved the embassy and was so far up Netanyahu's ass that he needed a flashlight. Yet people are acting like Biden is the only pro Israel voice in American politics. Let's make it clear, EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN POLITICIAN IS PRO ISRAEL, no matter what they tell you
I'm gonna show up in Dearborn MI 6 months after the election and scoop up some real estate after the deportations.
Trump. You are supporting Trump. Trump will ban Muslims again and not just the foreign ones.
Biden is not the one murdering Palestinians.
Bebe is.
Bebe and Trump are buddies. Bebe spoke directly to Congress to humiliate Obama to help Trump get elected. He chose sides and interfered in the US election. Because Bebe is a racist genocidal murderer.
Sometimes Presidents have to do difficult diplomacy. And it sucks.
But Trump is coming for all Muslims. Seriously. We cannot have Trump again.
An American election is a zero sum game. You are forced to pick the least crappy option.
The election is important BUT the president isn't and shouldn't be above criticism. He is not doing the killing but he's keeping the killers well stocked with weapons and ammunition, doing PR for them and undermining any attempt to stop the killing.
If this isn't something he should be criticised for I don't know what is
People who support genocide for its own sake will come up with any excuse to keep their indefensible positions from scrutiny.
They’re a huge difference between criticizing, and refusing to vote for him over a single issue. Criticize him all you wish, he’s certainly earned it, but crossing one’s arms and staying home instead of voting as a result of said criticism is fucking stupid.
And were Biden stupid enough to cut aid to Israel he'd lose two to three times as many potential Votes as there are to gain from cutting off aid. But you don't care about that as purity is the only concern and consequences are for others to pay.
Not meeting with Biden =/= Voting for Trump
But let's not pretend this coverage doesn't have an impact on certain voters who throw their hands up and go, "ah hell they're all the same! I'm not voting!"
Right-wing operatives are already obviously seizing on this wedge-driving opportunity.
Just equals supporting his bid for power. And in turn supporting lil' dic. pootie and fash baby bibi as they are who gain should you succeed in bringing Biden down.
As far as centrists are concerned, anything other than worship of everything Biden does is a vote for Trump.
The US is funding and providing the weapons to kill Palestinians, resources Biden can withhold if he chooses to. Biden may not be pulling the trigger any more than Netanyahu is, but he is responsible for their deaths, and should be held accountable
Congress controls foreign aid. It's usually bundled such that it's part of a larger funding bill. There's very little Biden can do without opening a can of worms.
Perfect reasoning!
However the problem with it is that the tankies here don’t care. It’s cool now for them to hate on Biden and be outraged about things happening in a country they couldn’t have point to on a map six months ago. Too many people have tried reasoning with them and explaining the fist past the post way things work-
They’re just too stubborn.
Religious people? Being blatantly stupid? You don't fucking say!
Here an alternative point of view:
As democrat who cares about the country you should help force your leadership to stop the genocide or stop aid and sale of arms if you want my vote.
How did you feel about Palestinians back in September? Oh you never once thought or cared about them before that?
Funny how the news told you what to be mad about, and what to call a conflict.
You should also complain to all the Arab country leaders who look at Palestinians as human refuse and have refused to help them for decades? Or are you satisfied using talking points from Saudi billionaires?
The thing with Muslims and Arabs is that they hate each other just as much as they hate Israel. Some of the worst things I've heard said about Palestinians was from Egyptians and other Arabs, they look at them like they're human garbage. But they're loving this, because they can now openly attack Israel, which is something they love to unify to do.
Why weren't all these Arab nations helping Palestinians before? Even now they won't take Palestinian refugees.
This is all grandstanding, they don't actually care about or even like Palestine
So facilitating the murder of millions of muslims is ok, but not letting them enter your country is worse?
Haha. Not sure why you're being downvoted, he's not even running a campaign. But somehow in the end this will be the progressives fault. Suck a dick dems.
the least crappy option is cornel west
No. Cornel West has no experience in public office and the Presidency isn't the place to learn on the job.
Muslims and Republicans have more in common than they like to admit. So they won’t find 4 years of Trump a big problem. Especially the ones that live in the big Muslim communities that aren’t facing much discrimination.
They agree on a lot of things - but the color of their skin and the god they respectively worship is a real big divide.
For anyone on the outside who doesn’t care which god or skin color, they look practically identical.
Yup, the 'save the family ' rallys are hilarious examples of how Right wing assholes can be Christian or Muslim all the same.