Now that it is getting legalized everywhere, Cannabis should fall under the jurisdiction of the ATF rather than the DEA.
And when they perform raids, they should be required to shout "This is a F.A.C.T. jack"! Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
I knew a guy a long time ago who said "Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should not be a branch of the government. It should be a convenience store."
Not that I agreed with him, but it was an amusing and unexpected take.
I give to you the ATF Convenience Store in Kingman, AZ
https://www.google.com/maps/place/ATF+Convenience+Store,+853+S+Ty+Rd,+Kingman,+AZ+86401/
Cannabis should be regulated by the FDA like any other vegetable. I should be able to buy weed at the farmer's market. Nobody says "oh you can only have two and a half ounces of kale at your house", "oh you can only grow so many tomatoes", "oh out of state residents can't buy more than a 12 pack"
Waaait if I am a US resident and go accross a state line im not allowed to buy a 30 pack of beer? Crossing a country border doesn't even prevent that.
But different areas do have weird restrictions on what you can buy and when. I live in Massachusetts so am familiar with blue laws, but …
On a trip to Pennsylvania a year or two ago, I had some microbrews I really liked and wanted to stock up from the local businesses, but apparently Pennsylvania law limits me to two six packs? wtf? Maybe I’m an edge case driving through and wanting to buy some for the next several weeks or parties but wtf
That's what I'm saying, nobody does that because it would be insane. But an Iowa resident coming to Illinois can only get 15 grams of weed at a licensed adult use dispensary. Opposed to an Illinois resident who can get 30.
Crossing a country border doesn't even prevent that.
Really depends on what countries you're talking about.
At the very least, you're likely to need to pay taxes on the goods, which is part of what the state laws are about. Confederacies like the EU maybe excepted.
Sure thing that "legalized everywhere" you talk about:
They mentioned the ATF. It was explicitly US centric and while a bit hyperbolic it is becoming more common there.
Maybe OP is incredibly imperialist and wants the ATF to police weed use everywhere on the world.
You mean ATF as in the automatic transmission fluid? No it was not explicitly US centric. You thinking a three letter acronym has to be about the US is just further evidence of the same assumption being the basis for all your thoughts.
Map no longer accurate, Minnesota legalized recreational this part year 😁
Also here in belgium, it is only decriminalized up to 3g.
Brazillian medical exception needs a big asterisk. You can get medical permits but you cannot grow and they are not legal distribution neither. You basically have to start growing illegally, then going to the police department close to you with a lawyer signed document saying that you are growing against the law to be able to fulfill the legally medical judge permit. If you're in condition to do that, that mean you have enough money that police are not going to bother you anyways because they only harass poor and black people.
America is not everywhere. At least mention the country where your question applies to instead of thinking you're the center of the internet. Before we try to find a connection between Automatic Transmission Fluid and Data Encryption Algorithm .
They make a North American event and call it the World Series. Hence North America is the whole world. QED.
Not to be pedantic, but neither Automatic Transmission Fluid nor Data Encryption Algorithms have any kind of jurisdiction in any country on the planet. Op provided enough context clues to understand the country they're talking about.
The only crime they committed is not including three words in a bracket to say "everywhere (in the US)" while still mentioning the jurisdiction of the three letter agencies in that country.
Is it US centralism thinking? Sure. But it's not like OP left out all the necessary info to determine where and what they were talking about. Not to mention their entire post is a joke with a clear punchline. I don't think anyone here is too stupid to understand the use of "jurisdiction" in OPs message, or the punchline it leads to, so why are you pretending to be that way to make a point? It simply weakens your point.
Imo there are much better places and comments to point out US exceptionalism BS than a throw away joke with enough context clues to understand it.
While it doesn't work as well with or as your joke, the ATF is actually now the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. So we need to add the E as well and we can spell FACET, which is less fun. Or use M for Marijuana and spell FMEAT.
Its still illegal at a federal level and I don't see that changing any time soon. You can't smoke your pot and work for the government.
Unfortunately it still falls under schedule 1. Even if states legalize it the federal government still considers it the same danger as heroin.
Don’t get me wrong. It shouldn’t be but until we get a federal law changing that then it’s still going to fall under DEA.
And unfortunately, the scheduling is determined by none other than the DEA itself. So I wouldn't hold my breath on them forfeiting funding and purview over of anything as trivial as medical research or the will of the people. At least not easily or without some other political quid pro quo.
It's only under schedule 1 for now. The HHS told the DEA to remove it, so it's only a matter of time now.
If you've ever had to deal with the ATF you know why this is a magnificently terrible idea.
FDA all the way.
Either hhs or fda.
Speaking of HHS (from NYT):
Marijuana is neither as risky nor as prone to abuse as other tightly controlled substances and has potential medical benefits, and therefore should be removed from the nation’s most restrictive category of drugs, federal scientists have concluded.
The recommendations are contained in a 250-page scientific review provided to Matthew Zorn, a Texas lawyer who sued Health and Human Services officials for its release and published it online on Friday night. An H.H.S. official confirmed the authenticity of the document.
But sadly
Last month, Michael D. Miller, a Justice Department official, defended the D.E.A.’s prerogative in making the final decision on the administration’s position.
“D.E.A. has the final authority to schedule, reschedule, or deschedule a drug under the Controlled Substances Act, after considering the relevant statutory and regulatory criteria and H.H.S.’s scientific and medical evaluation,” he wrote in a letter to Representative Earl Blumenauer, an Oregon Democrat who has pushed the D.E.A. to reconsider marijuana.
I see no motivation for the DEA to voluntarily forfeit power and money just because it's the right thing to do. Also think of career DEA guys' pride and ego. They are not going to easily admit they've been wrong and that their rhetoric has been overheated for the past 50 years.
I don't want the FDA involved considering how they fucked with vaping.
Fun fact, while working "the season" in NorCal before it was legalized (when it was still crazy lucrative to do so), the ATF and CAMP were the ones raiding the farms, not the DEA.
Mainly because of the lack of ATF oversight and their FUCKING MASSIVE operations budget.
If people really understood what they have done in the past, that agency would be dissolved overnight.
I don't even understand why those 3 things are together in the first place. None of those things go together in any kind of way I can think of that there would be an organization dedicated to them.
Dip, beer and guns go together like "peas and carrots"
Things that are legal for personal use but heavily restricted
Yes
Everywhere? DEA? ATF? I really didn't miss reddit's US defaultism
Who is Jack?
nope. It should be regulated by each state. The federal government should just back off.
Counterpoint: Neither of those organizations should exist at all.
Yea, they take up too much funding that could be used for other orgs!
....wait a minute
hah, I read that as "other drugs" and was confused to your point.
Yea, useful ones like medicare and social services, right?! ... right..?
Orgies! Yeah!